Ultimate X Alternate Strategy?

In the WoO page about Single-Line Ultimate X, it says

For the single-line version of Ultimate X, it is important to have a separate strategy for each multiplier on the current hand. In the multi-line version you can get away with a single strategy, because the multipliers averaged out somewhat across hands, but not in this version.

I mostly play multi-line, but I've found a single-line version I'd like to play. Assuming I'm too lazy/stupid to learn all the separate multiplier strategies, how much EV am I costing myself by using multi-line strategy on the single-line game?

Others would possibly know better chan me, but I don't think it's much more than 0.1% than the "multiplier independent" strategy.

Quote: GuyIncognito

In the WoO page about Single-Line Ultimate X, it says

For the single-line version of Ultimate X, it is important to have a separate strategy for each multiplier on the current hand. In the multi-line version you can get away with a single strategy, because the multipliers averaged out somewhat across hands, but not in this version.

I mostly play multi-line, but I've found a single-line version I'd like to play. Assuming I'm too lazy/stupid to learn all the separate multiplier strategies, how much EV am I costing myself by using multi-line strategy on the single-line game?

I thought all ult x was +.5% more than the regular version.

so I got excited when I saw single line ult x 9/6 ddb.
I thought 99.5%! (best game at that casino at regular coin-in per point was 9/7 db aka 99.1%.)

then reality: https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/video-poker/29618-ult-x-single-line-is-much-lower-than-multi-play/
I rather stick with 99.1% than 99.3% and having to know 7 strategies.
I play at multiple casinos that have 9/7 db and only 1 that has single line ult X.

but if using the ult X multi-multiplier strategy sheet only costs .1%, then that single line 9/6 ddb is now 99.2%.
the swings will probably be wicked though. variance = 73 where as regular ddb is 44, and db is 28.

case in point last week:
$1 9/7 db
$12k coin-in
I hit the avg # of quads. avg = 1 quad per 600hands. $12k coin-in at $1 denom max bet = 2400 hands
ie: hit 4 quads (2 regular, 2 baby)
still lost $1.1k :(

$1 single line 'ult x' 9/6 ddb could be 3x that loss.
but it could also be 3x that gain...

Quote: 100xOdds

I thought all ult x was +.5% more than the regular version.

so I got excited when I saw single line ult x 9/6 ddb.
I thought 99.5%! (best game at that casino at regular coin-in per point was 9/7 db aka 99.1%.)

I think the best bang for your buck is the 7/5 bonus poker UX. 10 play is 99.26%. Base 7/5 bonus with no UX is 98.01%.

UX straight up is pure evil.

I believe if you are using the correct multi-line strategy it would be the same as the single line. The multi-line strategy just averages the all of the multipliers to determine the correct hold. On signle line there is only one multiplier so use that number just like you would in muti-line. If you are not making strategy adjustments in multi-line based on the multiplier, just run away and don't play.

Quote: AxelWolf

UX straight up is pure evil.

What does that make Bonus Streak?

Quote: Mission146

What does that make Bonus Streak?

does ult X bonus streak require different strategy than the non 'ult x' version??

same question for ult X spin poker.

Quote: 100xOdds

does ult X bonus streak require different strategy than the non 'ult x' version??

same question for ult X spin poker.

Bonus Streak is specifically an Ultimate X variant. There is no Bonus Streak that’s not UX, the closest game I could think of might be something like Multi-Strike, which is still quite different.

Quote: 100xOdds

does ult X bonus streak require different strategy than the non 'ult x' version??

same question for ult X spin poker.

Yes you should use a different strategy for UX Bonus Streak. UX spin poker will be close to regular X.

Returns depend on paytable and multipliers. The single line version often has a lower multiplier in one category. :(

Quote: tringlomane

Yes you should use a different strategy for UX Bonus Streak. UX spin poker will be close to regular X.

Returns depend on paytable and multipliers. The single line version often has a lower multiplier in one category. :(

saw someone check every game and play max bet if he found any multipliers till he blanked. (both bonus streak and spin x)
even a lone 2x on $1 10 play ($100 coin-in).

I'm thinking $1 9/7 db would be better.