Which Casino/Casino's in Vegas have the best cash back %?
1. I was wondering if anybody can point me in the right direction to which casino/casino's have the highest cash back percentage by vegas standards?
"Cash back" meaning: free play (not concerned too much with comp dollar percentage)
Mostly I play JOB 9/6 in Atlantic City - and the cash back percentages are pretty dismal out there - (you basically have to play on multiplier days for it to be a +EV play)
Borgota being the best at .125% free slot play ($1.25 cash back on a $1,000 coin in) (must play $4,000 coin in 1 session to get $5 FP).
2. Is the cash back at the CET properties (Total Rewards) in Vegas as bad as they are in Atlantic City?
Atlantic City CET properties (Ballys, Harahs, and Caesars):
$20 coin in on a full pay JOB = 1 tier credit- or $1,000 coin in gets you 50 tier points equivalent to .25 cents (2/1 conversion rate) or .025% cash back.
(more if you are diamond or seven stars and convert reward credits to slot play, diamond= 1.75/1, seven stars= 1.25/1)
3. Also, does anybody know of any multiplier bonus days (free play) anywhere in Vegas from 4/27/16 - 5/3/16?
(bonus free play must be redeemable immediately or within 24-48 hours, I would want to use it before I leave Vegas)
4. Any promotions for new member club sign ups/ anywhere?
(I read palms had a $100 free play for reaching $12,500 coin in, but this was a blog dated in late 2014, not sure if that promo is still good)
Thanks for your help!
The Plaza casino is running a $500 loss rebate for new players. That is probably the best one going today.
Palms does still have that promo going on for freeplay which makes it a better play for a first timer, and they have $1 NSUD and $2 9/6 JoB. 0.25% cashback and if you play during the weekdays you can earn an additional 0.2% in freeplay, cash, or gift cards (unknown right now what it will be the first week of May, but for the last week of April it's Kohl's and McD's gift cards). 2x VP lately on Wednesdays, which would be 4/27, and you can get some freeplay coupons from the American Casino Guide and LVA Member Rewards book. All of these things will stack for a much better overall return. The freeplay coupons can be used in series, not simultaneously. That is to say, if one freeplay coupon requires 5k play and the other 10k play, then a total of 15k play will be required to use both of them, but you'll get 2x points, 0.2% in gift cards, and 0.25% cashback on the entire 15k in addition to the signup $100 freeplay bonus.
Quote: DRichIf you look at the VPFREE2.COM website it shows the standard cash back for must casinos.
The Plaza casino is running a $500 loss rebate for new players. That is probably the best one going today.
Drich - I already have been using "VPFREE2.com" ((very informative site) to search for certain VP games - however, how would I navigate or where on the website can I find the info regarding a casino's standard cash back?
Thanks again.!
(updated) Drich - nevermind, I found it! I didn't realize before there where additional tabs for each casino, one of those tabs being players club. Has info there. Thanks!
Quote: stabworldDrich - I already have been using "VPFREE2.com" ((very informative site) to search for certain VP games - however, how would I navigate or where on the website can I find the info regarding a casino's standard cash back?
Thanks again.!
Check the player's club section. That will usually have details.
Quote: abacabb2x VP lately on Wednesdays, which would be 4/27,
What exactly is 2X VP on weds?
what do you mean by 4/27?
Does that add +.25% cashback (VP on wed) in addition to the normal .25% cashback, + .20% on weekday, for a total of .7% cashback?
thanks.
Quote: abacabbthey have $1 NSUD and $2 9/6 JoB. 0.25% cashback
Do you know if the 9/6 JOB 5 play, 10 play, and 50 play machines give the .25% cashback, or are those the machines that only give .125%?
$1 Coin-In = 1 Point on Most Video Poker
Free Play or Comps: 400 points = $1 (0.25%)
$2 Coin-In = 1 Point on Some of the Better Video Poker
Free Play or Comps: 400 points = $1 (0.125%)
(update)
I think they do earn the .25% cashback, because I don't see any notations in parenthesis next to those games on vpfree2.com like they have on the 100%+ vp games - where it would specifically say (excluded from promotions or points) or ($2 per point).
Quote: DRichIf you look at the VPFREE2.COM website it shows the standard cash back for must casinos.
The Plaza casino is running a $500 loss rebate for new players. That is probably the best one going today.
This is a great promotion, I'll just keep playing until I lose $500 - all the while racking up cashback and comps.
Risk nothing - free shot at royal - Can't be that.
If that's your strategy then just play the full pay jokers. IMO they are kinda fun.Quote: stabworldThis is a great promotion, I'll just keep playing until I lose $500 - all the while racking up cashback and comps.
Risk nothing - free shot at royal - Can't be that.
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Actually I'm not sure if they have card readers or what kinda points, I'll check next time I'm Downtown.
Djact probably knows perhaps you can ask him.
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stabworld what are you actually trying to achieve? Honestly, if you're trying to be a VP AP you probably need to re-evaluate your strategy concerning all that NSU/ 9/6/10/7 or whatever higher % games and crappie cash back. Hell you are better off learning poker and playing 1-2/ 1-3 NL.
If you are someone who's retired, well banked and just looking to kill time make a little and enjoy free meals or whatever. I say go for it, it certainly beats playing checkers in the park and feeding the pigeons.
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A question for ME or whomever: If you have unlimited time to do a rebate and you always played on a +EV game (like FPJW) every day wouldn't that make the rebate worth close to $500 considering your win goal isn't a factor because you're playing FPJP for the rest of your life?
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Quote: AxelWolfIf that's your strategy then just play the full pay jokers. IMO they are kinda fun.
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ya that would be cool, but, the highest machine they have for the full pay jokers are .25. I don't have that kind of time to sit there for a $5 an hr play.
Quote: AxelWolf
stabworld what are you actually trying to achieve? Honestly, if you're trying to be a VP AP you probably need to re-evaluate your strategy concerning all that NSU/ 9/6/10/7 or whatever higher % games and crappie cash back. Hell you are better off learning poker and playing 1-2/ 1-3 NL.
If you are someone who's retired, well banked and just looking to kill time make a little and enjoy free meals or whatever. I say go for it, it certainly beats playing checkers in the park and feeding the pigeons.
I have been playing poker professionally for some years now, 1/2, and 2/5nl, - 1/3NL is not offered too many places on the East Coast. I'm just starting VP AP. I did AP blackjack last year, but got tired of the back offs, the 86 's, huge swings in bankroll, the act you have to put on at the table, being treated like a criminal for playing a game, etc.
Unfortunately, playing poker by itself, dosent' earn you enough comps, for free rooms, etc., unless you are soley dedicated to giving that casino all your poker action. I do need the rooms, as I live far from the casino's. I usually stay in A.C. for half the week.
In answer to your question, the short answer is yes, I'm trying to become a part time VP AP. Long term money being the obvious reason, but also to get the free rooms as a supplement to my poker play.
Not too mention playing live poker 30-40 hours a week, gets so boring, I feel like i'm on auto pilot, going through the motions, most of the time at the poker tables. It will be nice to have something different to do.
Also, the video poker allowed me to accumulate tier points pretty rapidly at the CET properties, granting me diamond status. I did it split up over 2 seperate days (multiplier days) with the earn 2500 tier points in a day and get bonus 5000 tier points. The diamond card is nice to have, I will skip the lines in the CET properties for hotel check in in Vegas - free rooms in vegas, no resort fees :), and free food and drinks in the diamond lounge while in vegas. My vegas trip is basically taken care of expense wise, with the exception of my airfare.
I also have to say, I have been fortunate enough to hit 3 royals in under 36,000 hands.
Quote: AxelWolf
A question for ME or whomever: If you have unlimited time to do a rebate and you always played on a +EV game (like FPJW) every day wouldn't that make the rebate worth close to $500 considering your win goal isn't a factor because you're playing FPJP for the rest of your life?
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Your question is a little confusing to me. When you say "wouldn't that make the rebate worth close to $500" - what exactly do you mean by that. Can you elaborate?
(I do partly understand what your getting at though) (I think, lol)
They might have $1 10/7.
Anyway it's obviously worth more than $5 PH with the LR.
You may not rack up anything playing $1 denominations playing $500 that could be gone rather quick.
The $5 denominations are back I think, most people play the LR on that.
Depending on the game and denomination playing a loss rebate the standard way people play with a win goal or lose everything strategy. That makes a loss rebate worth significantly less than the amount of the rebate.Quote: stabworldYour question is a little confusing to me. When you say "wouldn't that make the rebate worth close to $500" - what exactly do you mean by that. Can you elaborate?
(I do partly understand what your getting at though) (I think, lol)
Quote: AxelWolfHmmm.. I thought they had .50 perhaps no card or it's the 90 4oak and 4700 RF.
They might have $1 10/7.
Anyway it's obviously worth more than $5 PH with the LR.
You may not rack up anything playing $1 denominations playing $500 that could be gone rather quick.
The $5 denominations are back I think, most people play the LR on that.
Ya, my plan is to play $1 JOB 9/6. I was contemplating playing double bonus 100.17% for the higher payout - but I decided against it for 2 reasons:
1. I'll lose the $500 a lot quicker due to the increased variance.
2. I haven't learn the game yet. Currently I only know JOB strategy, and I want to play more JOB before learning a new game.
Quote: AxelWolfDepending on the game and denomination playing a loss rebate the standard way people play with a win goal or lose everything strategy. That makes a loss rebate worth significantly less than the amount of the rebate.
My goal is to sit their until I hit a royal or lose $500. Losing $500 is obviously the most probable scenario, but hey its a free shot nevertheless. Don't know if that's the best strategy, but it makes sense to me. Getting the full value of the $500 loss rebate I think.
Quote: AxelWolfDepending on the game and denomination playing a loss rebate the standard way people play with a win goal or lose everything strategy. That makes a loss rebate worth significantly less than the amount of the rebate.
I do see what you saying now. if you break it down into multiple outcomes:
(a simplistic example for the sake of argument and illustration)
Playing a loss rebate of $500 100 times:
-50 times you would have reached your win goal and stopped play, (the loss rebate had a value of $0)
-50 times you lossed $500 (the loss rebate had a value of $500)
the $500 loss rebate over the 100 possible outcomes had a total value of $250.
Quote: stabworldWhat exactly is 2X VP on weds?
what do you mean by 4/27?
Does that add +.25% cashback (VP on wed) in addition to the normal .25% cashback, + .20% on weekday, for a total of .7% cashback?
thanks.
2x VP refers to double points on video poker on Wednesday. I probably assumed based on your original post that you were more familiar with some of the terminology.
4/27 is a Wednesday -- it's a date that you specifically mentioned in your first post.
Yes, 0.7% would be the total, plus whatever you can stack with freeplay coupons and the signup bonus.
Quote: abacabb2x VP refers to double points on video poker on Wednesday. I probably assumed based on your original post that you were more familiar with some of the terminology.
4/27 is a Wednesday -- it's a date that you specifically mentioned in your first post.
Yes, 0.7% would be the total, plus whatever you can stack with freeplay coupons and the signup bonus.
gotcha. thanks abacabb. Appreciate it!
The problem is you are grinding yourself down with the low variance and denomination and -EV game.Quote: stabworldMy goal is to sit their until I hit a royal or lose $500. Losing $500 is obviously the most probable scenario, but hey its a free shot nevertheless. Don't know if that's the best strategy, but it makes sense to me. Getting the full value of the $500 loss rebate I think.
the 10/7 is a better(not the best) choice than the 9/6.
If you are opposed to playing the $5
I would print out a Double bonus strategy and use the opportunity to get a feel for the 10/7. play slow check hands they are fairly tolerant to using strategy cards.
You could hit Aces 2's, 3's or 4's in short order, cash out and take the money. There's value not having to return 2 more times to collect and play the free play. Also there's a chance you will have to run the free play on slots.
They are disabling free play on games that have anything fair.
oooop's there -$50+ in EV that's significant especially with travel time and whatnot.
I'm flying out today.
Mainly looking for any multiplier days/new member promotions/ any good +EV plays in general.
Thanks All!
Dont take this the wrong way, but you're going to have better results if you do your own legwork than continuously asking people to spoon feed you.
Quote: mcallister3200Look on the various casino websites and Las Vegas advisor bonus points list. Las Vegas sun has weekly promotions online too, combine them with available games on vpfree.
Dont take this the wrong way, but you're going to have better results if you do your own legwork than continuously asking people to spoon feed you.
Loch Ness casino is giving away 3.50% cashback
Quote: djatcLoch Ness casino is giving away 3.50% cashback
With the juicy 6/5 Hacks or Better pay table where 2 pair pays 1.
Quote: djatcLoch Ness casino is giving away 3.50% cashback
Do they have 17/10 Loose Deuces?
Quote: mcallister3200Look on the various casino websites and Las Vegas advisor bonus points list. Las Vegas sun has weekly promotions online too, combine them with available games on vpfree.
Dont take this the wrong way, but you're going to have better results if you do your own legwork than continuously asking people to spoon feed you.
Its fine. I understand what your saying. I have been searching and checking out various sources.
Just figured , it wouldnt hurt to ask anyway and see if i missed something.
Im heading over to the palms today for the new member sign up - $100 free slot play - 2500 points. + 2xvp points.
Then plaza for their $500 loss rebate. (Probably do that tomorow.
Treasure island has a new member sign up $20-$100 free slot play for (i think its $1,500 coin in)
It looks like my next trip is in July but hopefully that will still be an option. We did pretty well on the deal at the Downtown Grand last year as my friend and I kind of shared risk and he won while I lost.
If you plan on coming to Vegas many times in the future I would skip this. There's a chance something better will come along.Quote: stabworld
Treasure island has a new member sign up $20-$100 free slot play for (i think its $1,500 coin in)
Heres why:
When you reach the 12,500 points in video poker and claim your $100 free play - they do not allow you to accumulate what you normally would get in slot cashback (.25% on the 12,500 points).
In addition - although there was 2x vp points (wed)- there was no weekday + .2% cashback on top of the wed 2x vp points. So instead of a total of .7% Cashback - it was .50% cashback.
Little dissappointed.
I think it was disappointing from the get go.Quote: stabworldOk so in regard to the palms $100 free play promo. Not as good as I thought it would be.
Heres why:
When you reach the 12,500 points in video poker and claim your $100 free play - they do not allow you to accumulate what you normally would get in slot cashback (.25% on the 12,500 points).
In addition - although there was 2x vp points (wed)- there was no weekday + .2% cashback on top of the wed 2x vp points. So instead of a total of .7% Cashback - it was .50% cashback.
Little dissappointed.
Head to NYC next time theres thousands a day in free money.
Quote: AxelWolfThe problem is you are grinding yourself down with the low variance and denomination and -EV game.
the 10/7 is a better(not the best) choice than the 9/6.
If you are opposed to playing the $5
I would print out a Double bonus strategy and use the opportunity to get a feel for the 10/7. play slow check hands they are fairly tolerant to using strategy cards.
You could hit Aces 2's, 3's or 4's in short order, cash out and take the money. There's value not having to return 2 more times to collect and play the free play. Also there's a chance you will have to run the free play on slots.
They are disabling free play on games that have anything fair.
oooop's there -$50+ in EV that's significant especially with travel time and whatnot.
I took your advice and played double bonus 10/7. You really need to hit quads every now and then Or your money depletes quick.
Yep, your right, the only available videopoker machines that accept free slot play is the machines at the bar. (JOB 6/5. - horrible).
I lost the $500, I have to go back today to get $250. And then again tomorrow for the other $250. Looks like Im stuck playing the crappy JOB 6/5 at the bar for my free slot play.
Quote: DRichIf you look at the VPFREE2.COM website it shows the standard cash back for must casinos.
The Plaza casino is running a $500 loss rebate for new players. That is probably the best one going today.
Terriffic promo
No-brainier
Quote: stabworldThis is a great promotion, I'll just keep playing until I lose $500 - all the while racking up cashback and comps.
Risk nothing - free shot at royal - Can't be that.
If you get up $200, quit.
Quote: stabworldI took your advice and played double bonus 10/7. You really need to hit quads every now and then Or your money depletes quick.
Yep, your right, the only available videopoker machines that accept free slot play is the machines at the bar. (JOB 6/5. - horrible).
I lost the $500, I have to go back today to get $250. And then again tomorrow for the other $250. Looks like Im stuck playing the crappy JOB 6/5 at the bar for my free slot play.
ChinaMoon slot by the garage elevators is better than 6/5 Jacks
Quote: DRichThe Plaza casino is running a $500 loss rebate for new players. That is probably the best one going today.
going to be in vegas in aug.
this promo still going?
details?
and best way to use this promo? and which machines?
Quote: 100xOddsgoing to be in vegas in aug.
this promo still going?
details?
and best way to use this promo? and which machines?
How about the cash to lose? How can we get that to you and how much do you need?
Quote: RogerKintHow about the cash to lose? How can we get that to you and how much do you need?
Haha that made me giggle.
