AxelWolf
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September 20th, 2015 at 5:19:12 PM permalink
Quote: RS

Why would it not?

Apparently the cards are now "shuffling" until you hit draw so the timing would've been different and 2 different cards would've came up had he held the other pair.
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Wizardofnothing
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September 20th, 2015 at 6:07:28 PM permalink
Because the machines continually shuffle until you hit draw so the timing would be different
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RS
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September 20th, 2015 at 7:32:19 PM permalink
All things being equal, the cards that were re-dealt would have been the same cards.

And no, cards are not "continuously shuffling". That'd be extremely taxing on the machines and would be completely idiotic programming practice. But, the current computer time is almost always used to generate RNG's, thus the cards. Actually, I don't know that, but I have absolutely no reason to believe they are "continuously shuffling".
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Wizardofnothing
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September 20th, 2015 at 7:41:19 PM permalink
I'm almost 50 percent sure that it depends when you hit the button and that it is not predetermined - maybe axel could weigh in on this
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RS
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September 20th, 2015 at 7:48:29 PM permalink
I agree.

And I'm almost 90% sure AlexWulf doesn't know. :)
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Wizardofnothing
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September 20th, 2015 at 7:51:19 PM permalink
So who knows? I thought this has been discussed in here by the wizard himself
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Dieter
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September 20th, 2015 at 8:57:34 PM permalink
Quote: RS

cards are not "continuously shuffling".
(...)
the current computer time is almost always used to generate RNG's, thus the cards.



What's the effective difference for the player?

You hit the draw button at one moment, you get one set of cards.
You hit it at a different moment, you get a different set.
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RS
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September 21st, 2015 at 2:57:09 AM permalink
Quote: Dieter

What's the effective difference for the player?

You hit the draw button at one moment, you get one set of cards.
You hit it at a different moment, you get a different set.



There wouldn't be. Well, perhaps the machine would be hotter (ie: temperature, not "hot streak") if the cards were constantly shuffling.
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Dieter
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September 21st, 2015 at 7:32:50 PM permalink
Quote: RS

perhaps the machine would be hotter (ie: temperature, not "hot streak") if the cards were constantly shuffling.



Shuffling a deck once requires about 51 "swap" operations, plus RNG calculations. Assume that each swap and supporting RNG calculation takes 200 processor cycles (this is probably high).

1000 shuffles per second would require 51*200*1000 processor cycles - or a bit over 10 million cycles per second as idle load.

An older, turn of the century processor would probably have about 250 million cycles per second available. This would be about a 4% load for shuffling.

A modern 1 gigahertz processor (like you might find 4 of in a cell phone) has over a billion cycles per second available. This would be about a 1% processor load as idle - a 0.25% load when divided over 4 cores.

It would have to shuffle a lot to get hot.
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rsactuary
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September 21st, 2015 at 8:13:47 PM permalink
The section on the RNG should clear this up.

http://www.videopoker.com/learn/superstitions/

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