Hot Roll Poker

I noticed a video poker variant called Hot Roll Poker at the Suncoast yesterday. The idea is if the player doubles his bet then one in six times he will get a multiplier. The multiplier is the sum of the roll of two dice. The expected return and strategy are the same as conventional video poker.

Please click the link. As always, I welcome all comments, questions, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Hot Roll? Multiple votes are allowed.

Quote: Wizard

I noticed a video poker variant called Hot Roll Poker at the Suncoast yesterday. The idea is if the player doubles his bet then one in six times he will get a multiplier. The multiplier is the sum of the roll of two dice. The expected return and strategy are the same as conventional video poker.

Please click the link. As always, I welcome all comments, questions, and especially corrections.

The question for the poll is would you play Hot Roll? Multiple votes are allowed.

I never thought I'd get to say this but, "I beat you to it!"

https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/off-topic/general/20392-atlantis-reno-online-vp-tourny/2/#post417946

Although, I couldn't say for sure, at the time, that the multipliers definitely had a 1 in 6 probability of occurring. In that post, however, I was able to determine that one in six was a minimal case because the visual representation of dice must conform to the randomness of physical dice and would, thus, have an average roll of seven.

By the way, there doesn't seem to be a link for this game on the Video Poker Paytables Main Page, yet:

https://wizardofodds.com/games/video-poker/basics/#toc-ReturnTables

It is indeed a Nevada regulation that video representations of dice must conform to natural odds, like real dice. I think it is just coincidental that the probability of getting a multiplier at all is 1 in 6 (a natural die probability).

Another way they could have done the game would be roll the dice on every throw and award the multiplier if the roll were a pair. They could also do a separate roll for each line.

I didn't link it up yet. I always give WoV members the first opportunity to see anything new.

Can this game be vultured?

Quote: odiousgambit

Can this game be vultured?

No. It plays very similarly to super times pay and double super times pay. You can get a dice roll before the deal or you can get a roll after you draw, but you cannot get both. STP you can only get it before the deal. Double STP you can get before deal or after the draw..or both.

This game is very fun to play.

Also the way the game is set up, this is the machine single line nickel players on the strip should look for as well. Why? Because you are allowed to bet 5 on just the bottom line! Unfortunately you do have to bet all the lines to play hot roll. And the worst pay table allowed on that game is 9/6/4 DB (96.38%; max allowed is 99.96%), so there are quite a few 97%+ games that are the minimum setting, which will be some of the best you're going to find for nickels on the strip. I usually play 8/5 Bonus Deluxe (97.4%) when i take a flyer on this game. Here is an example from Cosmo in April. If you find this pic useful for the page Mike, feel free to use it.



A few minor suggestions on the text.

The player will get a multiplier with probability 1/6. I suggest...
The multiplier is awarded with a probability of 1 out of 6.

Images taken with permission from VideoPoker.com.

Since the player must double his bet, the return is exactly the same as for the base pay table.

One of the things I've observed (and heard from others) is useful to people in the video poker wasteland...

The minimum paytables on Hot Roll seem to be better than some of the junk we see out here.

If you play it at 5 coins/line, it's just like standard multi-line VP, only in many cases, with a better paytable than the plain multi-line machines, even on low denominations.

Of course, playing 10 coins/line gives you that fun "HOT ROLL!" sound effect when it rolls a 10 or better.

Thanks tring for those corrections.

I can say the pay tables are the Suncoast are stingy, at least the machine I checked. As a general rule, I think it is worth the time to check pay tables on video poker variants like this.

Quote: Wizard

I can say the pay tables are the Suncoast are stingy, at least the machine I checked.

That I can believe.

Out here where stingy paytables are the norm, Hot Roll seems to offer less stingy options.

Quote: Wizard

It is indeed a Nevada regulation that video representations of dice must conform to natural odds, like real dice. I think it is just coincidental that the probability of getting a multiplier at all is 1 in 6 (a natural die probability).

I think it is coincidental, too, but ended up being the easiest thing to do:

Since the player must bet double to get a feature, and assuming the player gets a feature, the average value must be 7x, then you could say that play is worth (.5 * 7) = 3.5

Given that such is the case, now they would want to look at how many plays (worth only half the normal base pay because of no feature) it would take to make the game balance out. IOW, they need a total that, divided by the number of games on average to get the feature, equals one, but slightly more than one (increased ER) would work.

5 * .5 = 2.5 + 3.5 = 6....5+1=6....6/6=1....Thus, one in six plays.

So, I agree that it probably ended up being coincidental, but kind of neat how it works.

Heard about Hot Rolls from someone on this site just before I went to the Downstream in March, so tried it and had this, among others:



Feel free to use this pic to illustrate on your page as well; if you want it, I will send the pic directly.

IDK if that machine was just running well that day, or what, but it played for a long time and I got up from it +$300~, really enjoyed how it played.