vp tournament at Rio

Trying to find info on vp tournament to be held at Rio June 1-3. I use the video poker wizard app on my phone to play absolute odds, but was wondering if that stategy should change for tournament play. I have not found out yet, but assuming it is ddb. Anyone help me wth some info. Thanks

How do you get away with using a VP app in a casino? They're illegal in Nevada.

The first time that I have heard this

So using my phone app is a no no, but I can use a printed strategy sheet, So is there a plan for video poker tournaments that varies from the VP poker Wizard. To be honest the phone app is not really needed now, because it was used so often before and most of the system is memorized.

It'll be 9/6 ddb. Probably 2 rounds and combining your scores. Used to be a speed tournament but last one I did there they had u start with 1000 credits to burn thru in 10 minutes 5 credits at a time of course. Some old geezers don't understand or are just plain slow and don't use up all the hands they could put in. I believe the correct strategy is to usually 'go for it!' (Like break aces,2,3,4s full) because the payouts are top heavy.

Side note: In nearly every one of these that I've done there the announcer will say on the second day something like "There's been 11 royals hit so far." but I kinda doubt him or think he might have been told to say that to discourage people from even checking if they placed. I've almost always placed in the money and placed well considering I've never hit a royal or aces w/k in one of these.

Depending on the prize pool, it might be better to go for a "royals only" strategy, but if you can play all 200 hands in 10 minutes playing optimal strategy, that would probably be better. You could argue to break a pair of face cards for 3 to a royal.

What were the field sizes amount of spots paid when you played Mooseton?

There are some subtle changes that I am considering, for instance holding two high cards of different suits, vs splitting them and holding only one, according to the chart the difference is minimal but it seems to me that it increases the probability of a royal. Are there charts that include the large "bonus" payout for playing in a tournament with tournament prizes?? Thanks for your input

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The first time that I have heard this

Nevada Revised Statutes (i.e. the "state laws of Nevada") 465.075:
"It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:
1. Projects the outcome of the game;
2. Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;
3. Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
4. Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,
except as may be made available as part of an approved game or otherwise permitted by the Commission."

#2 applies to card-counting apps; #3 and #4 applies to things like Video Poker strategy apps.
The penalty is probation, 1-6 years in prison (which can be suspended), and/or a fine of up to $10,000 for the first offense, and 1-6 years in prison (mandatory) plus up to a $10,000 fine for any subsequent offense.

Printed cards are not considered a problem, as (a) in blackjack, basic strategy is not considered a "threat", and (b) in VP, there are far more different hands than a reasonably-sized card could have on it.
Also note that the Nevada Gaming Regulations specifically allow for writing down (but not electronic tracking) of cards in baccarat, and of numbers in roulette.

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What were the field sizes amount of spots paid when you played Mooseton?

Memory's a little foggy, it's always either a $75k or $150k tourney. Most always top 250 people get paid. Not sure on the amount of people. If I was forced to guess, I'd say usually about 650-750 people but I really don't know. 60 people every 20 minutes from 10a-2pm. But not every machine in every single session is full. And some people don't do well in the first round and don't come back. The problem is im talking about two different Cet tournaments that are similar :/ Sorry

I have never won 1st or 2nd in a decent VP tounrement without hitting a RF.

There have been a few bar VP tounrements it was possible but the prize money was crappy.

I have played a few where I actually hit a RF and didn't place in the top 5 even.

Quote: ThatDonGuy

Nevada Revised Statutes (i.e. the "state laws of Nevada") 465.075:
"It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:
1. Projects the outcome of the game;
2. Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;
3. Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
4. Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,
except as may be made available as part of an approved game or otherwise permitted by the Commission."

i would argue none of the above applies to video poker apps as you cannot obtain an advantage with them

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Quote: ThatDonGuy

Nevada Revised Statutes (i.e. the "state laws of Nevada") 465.075:
"It is unlawful for any person to use, possess with the intent to use or assist another person in using or possessing with the intent to use any computerized, electronic, electrical or mechanical device, or any software or hardware, or any combination thereof, which is designed, constructed, altered or programmed to obtain an advantage at playing any game in a licensed gaming establishment or any game that is offered by a licensee or affiliate, including, without limitation, a device that:
1. Projects the outcome of the game;
2. Keeps track of cards played or cards prepared for play in the game;
3. Analyzes the probability of the occurrence of an event relating to the game; or
4. Analyzes the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game,
except as may be made available as part of an approved game or otherwise permitted by the Commission."

i would argue none of the above applies to video poker apps as you cannot obtain an advantage with them

And I counter-argue that being told which cards to hold is definitely "analyzing the strategy for playing or betting to be used in the game."

I would counter-counter-argue that the bullet point list applies to items that would give you an advantage over the casino. Since a video poker app does not do that, the bullet point list does not apply.

If it wasn't for the language above the bullet point list, I would agree that 3 applies to VP

I played VP tournaments before and strategy goes out the window:

Hit something big by throwing away everything or a 1 card royal draw. Only way to win.