mickeycrimm
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:19:23 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

That 30.8 figure seems to high that`s almost once every 3 hands for a redraw.Tringlomane,JB anyone?

The 30.8 is not percent. It's 30.8 deals.
CrystalMath
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:19:45 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

That 30.8 figure seems to high that`s almost once every 3 hands for a redraw.Tringlomane,JB anyone?

He's saying that you throw away 1 in every 30.8 hands. I think this seems accurate.
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AxelWolf
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:30:33 PM permalink
I think its obvious to everyone that the cycle in order to get a redraw royal is much harder to get then a dealt one however i don't think that's the question he is asking.

the only question should be, how many hands on average dose it take to get a RF, after you toss out 5 non RF cards.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
Twirdman
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:33:04 PM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

That 30.8 figure seems to high that`s almost once every 3 hands for a redraw.Tringlomane,JB anyone?

No thats once out of every 30.8 hands not 3. He didn't right it as a percent he wrote it as a frequency. Its roughly 3% slightly more but meh.
petroglyph
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:35:03 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I think its obvious to everyone that the cycle in order to get a redraw royal is much harder to get then a dealt one however i don't think that's the question he is asking.

the only question should be, how many hands on average dose it take to get a RF, after you toss out 5 non RF cards.

Has anything showed in the mail? Appreciate if you let me know?
Hunterhill
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:38:37 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

He's saying that you throw away 1 in every 30.8 hands. I think this seems accurate.

Oh that makes sense.Thanks
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mickeycrimm
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December 23rd, 2013 at 3:39:41 PM permalink
Quote: CrystalMath

He's saying that you throw away 1 in every 30.8 hands. I think this seems accurate.

For those of you who do not have any video poker software you can go to wolfvideopoker.com and download Frugal Video Poker FOR FREE. It only takes a few seconds. Jim Wolf designed FVP. Several years later he designed a more updated version called Wolf Video Poker. WVP has a few more advanced functions than FVP. But FVP will work just fine for you in most situations.

For the 30.8 figure I went to 9/6 Jacks, clicked on "Strategies/Games" then clicked on "Show strategy chart." Then I clicked on "Add Statistics." I put a checkmark in the boxes beside "cycle" and "appeared." These statistics show up right beside the hand in the strategy chart. The "appeared" column shows that there are 84,360 combinations out of 2,598,960 that make a "draw five" hand. The "cycle" column shows that you will be dealt a "draw five" hand every 30.8 games. This is a rounded off number.

If you divide 2,598,960 combinations by 84,360 combinations it works out to 30.807965.
AxelWolf
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December 23rd, 2013 at 7:43:51 PM permalink
Quote: petroglyph

Has anything showed in the mail? Appreciate if you let me know?

Yes thank you for payment on the bet. I don't often check that PO box so I just checked it today. FYI IT came with with some official looking DAMAGED PACKAGE stamp and sticker on it. At first I thought, I had something like a box damaged. It was partly opened. looks like someone tried to steal the cash, but realized it was not worth their JOB for that amount of money. Its almost as if they can tell what money looks like when its sent in the mail.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
mickeycrimm
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December 24th, 2013 at 2:47:55 AM permalink
Quote: mickeycrimm

For those of you who do not have any video poker software you can go to wolfvideopoker.com and download Frugal Video Poker FOR FREE. It only takes a few seconds. Jim Wolf designed FVP. Several years later he designed a more updated version called Wolf Video Poker. WVP has a few more advanced functions than FVP. But FVP will work just fine for you in most situations.

For the 30.8 figure I went to 9/6 Jacks, clicked on "Strategies/Games" then clicked on "Show strategy chart." Then I clicked on "Add Statistics." I put a checkmark in the boxes beside "cycle" and "appeared." These statistics show up right beside the hand in the strategy chart. The "appeared" column shows that there are 84,360 combinations out of 2,598,960 that make a "draw five" hand. The "cycle" column shows that you will be dealt a "draw five" hand every 30.8 games. This is a rounded off number.

If you divide 2,598,960 combinations by 84,360 combinations it works out to 30.807965.

So I'm curious. Did any of you guys download Frugal Video Poker?
JB
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