December 3rd, 2012 at 3:40:53 AM
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Hi guys,
I came across VP games where the player had to match his bet if he wanted to try to improve his initial hand (discarding some cards and replacing them with new once). Because of this the pay tables differ from normal games. Here is the Bonus Poker’s table:
Royal Flush 800
Straight Flush 300
4 Aces 200
4 of a Kind: 2-4 100
4 of a Kind: 5-King 40
Full House 18
Flush 10
Straight 7
3 of a Kind 5
2 Pair 3
Jacks or Better 1
The VP games are linked to a progressive jackpot that could increase the odds for a royal flush from 800 to about 1400 (that much I’ve seen).
Has anybody seen such games? Is there any software tool that can analyze them? Or, is there any info about them in the VP books?
VPRookie
I came across VP games where the player had to match his bet if he wanted to try to improve his initial hand (discarding some cards and replacing them with new once). Because of this the pay tables differ from normal games. Here is the Bonus Poker’s table:
Royal Flush 800
Straight Flush 300
4 Aces 200
4 of a Kind: 2-4 100
4 of a Kind: 5-King 40
Full House 18
Flush 10
Straight 7
3 of a Kind 5
2 Pair 3
Jacks or Better 1
The VP games are linked to a progressive jackpot that could increase the odds for a royal flush from 800 to about 1400 (that much I’ve seen).
Has anybody seen such games? Is there any software tool that can analyze them? Or, is there any info about them in the VP books?
VPRookie
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:27:09 AM
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Can you clarify some of the finer points? --
1) Are you forced to always double your bet, or only when discarding 1 or more cards? For example, if you're dealt a flush, can you stay and be paid for it without doubling your bet?
2) Are the payouts multiplied by your total bet, or do they remain the same even if you double your bet? For example, if you are dealt 4 to a flush, double your bet, discard 1 card, and complete the flush on the draw, are you paid 10 times your initial bet or 10 times your total (doubled) bet?
3) What jurisdiction is this game in? There is a possibility that it could be a Class II game.
1) Are you forced to always double your bet, or only when discarding 1 or more cards? For example, if you're dealt a flush, can you stay and be paid for it without doubling your bet?
2) Are the payouts multiplied by your total bet, or do they remain the same even if you double your bet? For example, if you are dealt 4 to a flush, double your bet, discard 1 card, and complete the flush on the draw, are you paid 10 times your initial bet or 10 times your total (doubled) bet?
3) What jurisdiction is this game in? There is a possibility that it could be a Class II game.
December 3rd, 2012 at 4:56:23 AM
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I've never seen it. The closest I've seen to this idea is double down stud poker.
Where did you find this game?
Where did you find this game?
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December 3rd, 2012 at 7:06:24 AM
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Clarifying
1) One is not forced to always double his bet, only when discarding 1 or more cards.
2) Payouts are multiplied by player’s initial bet no matter if one doubles his bet.
3) About the jurisdiction - should this be disclosed?
1) One is not forced to always double his bet, only when discarding 1 or more cards.
2) Payouts are multiplied by player’s initial bet no matter if one doubles his bet.
3) About the jurisdiction - should this be disclosed?
December 3rd, 2012 at 7:20:52 AM
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You don't have to tell us the jurisdiction, but some places, like Washington, don't have real video poker, so calculating a strategy is worthless.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 7:51:38 AM
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Eastern Europe
December 3rd, 2012 at 8:49:41 AM
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Quote: VPRookieEastern Europe
I've got no idea if it's real video poker or not. I've seen some funny pokers from Estonia that must be class II (not real video poker) or they have a player advantage.
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December 3rd, 2012 at 9:53:15 PM
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If the game deals cards randomly and fairly, the Bonus Poker variant returns 74.9345% when the royal flush pays 800 times the initial bet, and it returns 100% when the royal flush pays 10,249 times the initial bet.
If the game does not deal cards randomly and fairly, there is no way of knowing how good or bad of a bet it is.
If the game does not deal cards randomly and fairly, there is no way of knowing how good or bad of a bet it is.