The Wizard's iphone video poker app

Wiz,

https://wizardofodds.com/apps/vpwizard/

Incredible app you put out. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeease make an Android version and I will be the first to purchase the app. Easily the best video poker app and probably even including pc games/apps that I've ever seen. Nice job!

ZCore13

I downloaded the iPad version last night. It's a fantastic value for $10. My biggest complaint is that it still makes noise even with the volume control on the iPad turned all the way down. How can I study VP situations during boring meetings at work when the iPad is still making noise? ;)

Also, like Bob Dancer, I found that I like to play QuickQuads too - although I play at the $0.01 machines - he probably doesn't go that low. The app is missing QQ games. :(

However, I absolutely love the app. I've only used it for a day, and I'm already learning a lot about some other games that scared me off. I've also learned that I'm still pretty good at 9/6 JoB. Usually I play Craps or Pai Gow Poker when I'm at the casino. I was never really comfortable playing VP because I never knew if I was playing optimally. This app can quickly get me back up to speed on VP, especially when Potawatomi in Milwaukee has 5X point days.

Thank you Wiz and JB!

If it had Pick'em Poker it would be amazing for me!

Quote: ddloml

I downloaded the iPad version last night. It's a fantastic value for $10. My biggest complaint is that it still makes noise even with the volume control on the iPad turned all the way down. How can I study VP situations during boring meetings at work when the iPad is still making noise? ;)

You can disable sounds from the Settings screen, which is accessible from the main menu.

If I was to make one suggestion, it would be that the card hold indicators be moved to the top the cards instead of the bottom. When playing it's difficult to see the indicator appear while you're thumbing the card to hold it. (iPhone)

the app is FANTASTIC - great value. do casinos in Nevada generally let you use an app like this at the machines?

Quote: mrjack9

the app is FANTASTIC - great value. do casinos in Nevada generally let you use an app like this at the machines?

Thanks for the compliment! That question has been debated on my radio show quite a bit. In my experience as long as you're discreet about it, nobody cares. I've yet to hear a story of a casino asking a player not to use WizPoker, or any competing app, at the machines. Then again, if you want to get technical, using an electronical device to gamle would seem to be a felony under the law.

Quote: mrjack9

the app is FANTASTIC - great value. do casinos in Nevada generally let you use an app like this at the machines?

It's technically illegal to use at the machines.

Quote: tringlomane

It's technically illegal to use at the machines.

I'm not understanding. Is it illegal in Nevada casinos, or not? This is something I'd get if it isn't. And/or, does it come with a disclaimer identifying anything about consequences if anyone who purchases it gets arrested in a casino? Because it sure sounds like it's being marketed by wizard to help us at the machines. More info please?

Your better off just learning how to play, a key to VP is speed and if you have to look up every hand it will take forever.

Legality: it is on the order of going 5 miles over the speed limit? If a cop catches you doing that, he just isnt going to pull you over, technically he could.

It sure puts a lot of trust into that casino, though, to hope they are still cool about it when you hit the Royal.

I will ask for this app for Christmas ! Fortunately.....

Quote: iluvdisco33

I'm not understanding. Is it illegal in Nevada casinos, or not? This is something I'd get if it isn't. And/or, does it come with a disclaimer identifying anything about consequences if anyone who purchases it gets arrested in a casino? Because it sure sounds like it's being marketed by wizard to help us at the machines. More info please?

If you get caught, they can prosecute you with a felony in Nevada. Will they actually bother to do this? It is unlikely, and if they did, it might give them bad PR. It is also illegal in my home state of Missouri. I have personally never heard of anyone prosecuted for using one. Using a printed strategy is legal in Missouri and Nevada.

Thanks.

I thought the "law" about using electronic devices while gambling only had to do with how they might cloak an ability to alter results or do something intangible to/a possible influence of, the game being played. If strategy cards are ok to use and all they provide is correct guidance, then an app such as this should also be ok, no? Or does the law assume for some reason, outdated perhaps, that there HAS to be more to electronic assistance than just that?

Quote: iluvdisco33

Thanks.

I thought the "law" about using electronic devices while gambling only had to do with how they might cloak an ability to alter results or do something intangible to/a possible influence of, the game being played. If strategy cards are ok to use and all they provide is correct guidance, then an app such as this should also be ok, no? Or does the law assume for some reason, outdated perhaps, that there HAS to be more to electronic assistance than just that?

Considering the language of NRS 465.075 was amended in 2011 for clarity purposes, I think it isn't outdated. Category B felony if convicted. I would assume for 1st offense it would have to be a fine though because the prison term is 1 year minimum. Is the law poor? Yes. I'm guessing it is written this way to "protect" players that don't have access/knowledge to electronic strategy guides? In my home state of Missouri, I feel the app shouldn't be an issue because 100%+ video poker no longer exists (although legal) and the use of a strategy app may help increase your gambling speed, which in turn accelerates the casino's profits. Nevertheless, the language is similar to Nevada and also a felony.

But there is a big exception for this law in both states: Each state's gaming commission has the authority to approve electronic strategy devices for legal use.

I might bother to contact the Missouri gaming commission over this since I would assume they would consider legalizing it.

http://leg.state.nv.us/NRS/NRS-465.html

MRS 313.830.4 (3) (d)
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/chapters/chap313.htm

I tend to think that this issue is just begging for a court case to settle. And that such settlement will favor the gambler and app designer.

Here's the points as I see them.

The law states that no gambler may use an electronic device to gain an advantage over the casino.
The casinos advertise (either publicly thru neon signs, or privately thru documents filed with gaming), that the machines have a specific house edge.
The advertised edge is achieved only when playing perfect strategy.
The app provides help to play perfect strategy, but goes no further. Therefore it do not provide an advantage over the casino.

In other words, the app gives a player a method of achieving the goal of the advetised house edge. To prevent a gamler from using the app, would be to prevent a gambler from playing the game at the advertised house edge, and that seems to be false advertising.

And false advertising is an offense that Nevada Gaming has a very strict policy about.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

The app provides help to play perfect strategy, but goes no further. Therefore it do not provide an advantage over the casino.

Unfortunately NRS 465.075 isn't written that way. If it's any electronic device that helps you with the strategy of the game, it's illegal without the Commission's approval. However, I still feel like anyone prosecuted for this would put up a good fight in court anyway. Hence, the lax enforcement of this law with regard to video poker apps.

And I don't think the casinos are falsely advertising either unless they forget the with perfect play phrase.