hhhccc
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:00:28 PM permalink
I am offered this deal by a casino host in a different part of the country:

free roundtrip airfare and RFB. a roundtrip takes about a 30-hour period for me.

$2,000 free play

No requirement of play. I am on the "honor" system to give them action. Previously, I have given them $100,000 of action on 9/6 JoB per trip. I suspect if I continue playing at this level, I can still get another trip in the future. I think I am losing about $1000 in play. $500 of it in theoretical loss, another $500 for imperfect play. I'm trying to be conservative in estimating my playing error rate. I have lost in the past, perhaps they are looking at my losses and thinking I am a horrific player. If I get better results in the future, they may not offer future deals.

I think I make $1,000 per trip, on average.

Are deals like this common? Do I have something that lots of people want? If I hit a Royal one time, should I expect no future offers?
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:08:28 PM permalink
Do you like vacationing away at this casino? The trip costs you whatever you have to give up from your job in terms of vacation time. If you would otherwise spend your vacation doing the same thing, just closer, maybe the only cost you consider is the travel time. Is the travel time inconvenience worth $1000 for 30 hours?

Or, if you are giving up a fun vacation to do this instead, I'm not sure you are actually making anything. Any vacation day technically costs you money. You do need to relax and take time off, but would this seem like work?
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hhhccc
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:12:24 PM permalink
I don't have a job, I'm old and retired. I don't need a vacation, every day is a vacation.
I do enjoy making money off of fun activities like gambling. I'm mostly wondering if I have something special on my hands or if it is ordinary stuff that any one can get.
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:34:00 PM permalink
Quote: hhhccc

I don't have a job, I'm old and retired. I don't need a vacation, every day is a vacation.
I do enjoy making money off of fun activities like gambling. I'm mostly wondering if I have something special on my hands or if it is ordinary stuff that any one can get.



I've never received an offer that good. $2000 in free play is worth about $500,000 in handle on 9/6 JOB. You could play it through once and relax for the weekend without gambling more. You'd probably make about $1900, but you'd probably also not receive the offer again. Or you could let that $2,000 be your bankroll for the weekend. Once you played it through and had the $1900 cash, you could probably last the weekend on that $$ unless you had some really terrible variance to deal with. They'd also count that additional play as though it was with your money and not theirs, which might make them repeat the offer.

How good is the food? Do you like staying in hotels? How do you feel about flying?
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:38:37 PM permalink
Quote: hhhccc

I am offered this deal by a casino host in a different part of the country:
free roundtrip airfare and RFB. a roundtrip takes about a 30-hour period for me.
$2,000 free play
No requirement of play.


This is a good deal but a 30 hour round trip is your decision.
At your level of "action" RFB should be expected. The airfare and the "on your honor to play at past levels" are very generous provisions. Most places would be explicit about requiring you to play at your historical levels.

As long as the travel is not an ordeal for you, take it, they are being quite generous with that 'no requirement' and full air fare.
hhhccc
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:40:55 PM permalink
Food is good, many outlets, ranging from cafes to ethnic foods to steakhouses.
I don't mind staying in hotels, it is the only time I get to work out.
I don't mind traveling. I like getting additional points on my frequent flyers account for free.

Maybe I am a terrible player or had terrible variance. At 5-coin $5 9/6 JoB, $2000 goes really quick.
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:42:25 PM permalink
Wanted to clear something up. When I say 30 hour roundtrip, I don't mean that traveling all by itself takes 30 hours. I mean from my house back home to my house takes 30 hours. That includes the traveling, playing, sleeping, etc.
rainman
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June 18th, 2012 at 8:42:48 PM permalink
You state your old and retired, stop putting to much thought into it. Get your old butt on a plane and go have a good time.
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June 18th, 2012 at 9:57:35 PM permalink
Second.
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June 18th, 2012 at 10:47:22 PM permalink
Quote: rainman

You state your old and retired, stop putting to much thought into it. Get your old butt on a plane and go have a good time.



Or, stated differently: "I'm gambling away my children's inheritance."
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June 18th, 2012 at 11:10:12 PM permalink
Quote: MrV

Or, stated differently: "I'm gambling away my children's inheritance."



Or, viewed differently: "Im gambling away my hard earned cash, and my children will get nothing because they are jerks!" :)

Inheritance is not an entitlement.
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June 18th, 2012 at 11:14:33 PM permalink
It most certainly is, at least, it traditionally has been a measure of a person's success in life.

Part of being a good parent is providing for your children.

Of course, if you feel your children are "jerks," well: Reality Dysfunction.
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June 18th, 2012 at 11:31:13 PM permalink
I have no children, but there are many cases where for a variety of reasons parents left there estate to people or organizations. other than they're children. This is why I said it is not an entitlement. If it was this would not happen. ,
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June 19th, 2012 at 3:53:36 PM permalink
Learn advanced strategy for 9/6 JOB, take them up on the offer, and have a "whale" of a time! Play $1 denom if you can't take the variance on $5. (Or 3/5 play $1).
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June 19th, 2012 at 4:53:18 PM permalink
Quote: hhhccc

Are deals like this common?



Extremely, and even more so during the last two years, in my experience.

Quote: hhhccc

Do I have something that lots of people want?



I ignore the majority of the free airfare offers that I get. If I'm planning a trip anyway I'll jump on it, but otherwise it's just a nice thing to get in the mail. Lets me know the hosts are thinking of me, lol.

Quote: hhhccc

If I hit a Royal one time, should I expect no future offers?



Quite to the contrary. If you win big, they'll be even more interested in flying you back there so that you can lose it back to them.
hhhccc
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June 19th, 2012 at 7:03:33 PM permalink
Quote: heather



Quite to the contrary. If you win big, they'll be even more interested in flying you back there so that you can lose it back to them.



So I'm sitting pretty, right? Win or lose, you think I'll continue to get good offers. Sounds like all I needed to do was find myself in this position to begin with :)

I don't know how I got in this spot, how do most people get here?
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June 20th, 2012 at 2:26:36 AM permalink
Quote: hhhccc

So I'm sitting pretty, right? Win or lose, you think I'll continue to get good offers. Sounds like all I needed to do was find myself in this position to begin with :)

I don't know how I got in this spot, how do most people get here?


By being successful in some realm of life other than casino gambling, such that they have such large sums of money available to wager on negative EV games of chance!

Assuming you're not an advantage player. If you are, props to you on playing with a card and getting these comps. That's some Ian Andersen shit right there (assuming the things he said in his book actually happened).
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