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Wellbush
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September 19th, 2021 at 11:46:30 PM permalink
Are autonomous vehicles safe enough yet? I don't think so. I think you're playing with fire if you divert your attention away from driving at all. The autonomous functions need more improvement before people start diverting their attention from driving.
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September 20th, 2021 at 12:24:43 AM permalink
Imagine a dog that tesla cant see. Or a construction zone. Its not fully autonomous. Youtube tesla fails.

Some of the youtubers are driving home the same expressway everyday. Now, imagine driving cross country.
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AZDuffman
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September 20th, 2021 at 2:18:04 AM permalink
Quote: tyler498


I get so annoyed when people point to imperfections of autonomous driving systems and suggest that for safety we should wait for them to be perfect before we rely on them. Meanwhile, we allow humans to drive and cause a mind blowing 1.35 millions deaths a year.
If one cares about safety, I'd expect a bigger sense of urgency trying to get the humans out of the driver seat



0.02% of the world's population, not a huge number.

People who keep pushing autonomous cars miss the many things that will prevent it. Two autonomous cars come to a stop sign. How do they know or decide which goes first? Sudden and temporary change in the road for construction or an accident, how does the car know how to react?

I hear about how people can't wait for the car to have no controls. How does a mechanic give such a car a proper road test?

If you do not want to pay attention hire an uber.
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AxelWolf
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September 20th, 2021 at 2:51:23 AM permalink
I can't wait for fully autonomous electric RV's, I'm all in if that happens.
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September 20th, 2021 at 3:07:25 AM permalink
In a showroom, the Tesla salesman mentioned the driving range was 260 miles on a single charge,

"What's the driving range with the lights, AC and radio on?

"Well, then it's less."
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September 20th, 2021 at 3:29:40 AM permalink
Quote: Tanko

In a showroom, the Tesla salesman mentioned the driving range was 260 miles on a single charge,

"What's the driving range with the lights, AC and radio on?

"Well, then it's less."

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    What is it in the cold in the northeast or upper plains states?
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    September 20th, 2021 at 5:20:42 AM permalink
    Quote: AxelWolf

    I can't wait for fully autonomous electric RV's, I'm all in if that happens.

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    You can still hire a chauffeur if you want.
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    September 20th, 2021 at 5:47:16 AM permalink
    Younger son wants fully autonomous vehicle. For every accident that occurs with one of them there would be 10 with human drivers. We old guys can mention the 1000 autonomous accidents and blame the autonomous function, and ignore the 10,000 human driver accidents, because, well, accidents happen! The problem is a legal one. There is an attorney somewhere that will blame EVERY accident involving an autonomous vehicle on the autonomous functionality.
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    September 20th, 2021 at 6:51:47 AM permalink
    Quote: AxelWolf

    I can't wait for fully autonomous electric RV's, I'm all in if that happens.

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    Housing will become a thing of the past, as people transition to living full-time in self-driving RVs. Your RV can drop you off at the casino, come back when you signal it, circle the city while you sleep, and drop you back at the casino when you wake up.
    Rinse and repeat.
    You can hit a casino in Colorado, go to sleep and wake up at a casino in New Mexico.
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    September 20th, 2021 at 8:43:17 AM permalink
    Quote: SOOPOO

    Younger son wants fully autonomous vehicle. For every accident that occurs with one of them there would be 10 with human drivers. We old guys can mention the 1000 autonomous accidents and blame the autonomous function, and ignore the 10,000 human driver accidents, because, well, accidents happen! The problem is a legal one. There is an attorney somewhere that will blame EVERY accident involving an autonomous vehicle on the autonomous functionality.

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    I find younger people want them more than older people and women want them more than men. I do not get wanting to be sitting in a car driving itself. IMHO people think they are going to do all kinds of things instead of drive. Reality will probably be far different. In any case I do not see it becoming both practical and the majority of cars for 20 years by which time I will be dead and thus not care.
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