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Minty
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darkoz
November 25th, 2020 at 7:12:26 PM permalink
I think it would be great to meet you. I generally find your posts agreeable, informative and interesting. Seeing you play and maybe learning a thing or two would be worth the cost of dinner, and I always like meeting other APs in person or otherwise. Unfortunately due to some medical stuff and Covid I haven't been putting in as many hours at my job or APing this year and am not likely to fly in the near future since cases are picking up.

Even though I won't be there I hope it goes well for you and whoever else shows if anyone accepts.
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coachbelly
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November 25th, 2020 at 7:18:28 PM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

How can darkoz prove he didn't lose more than he won? No way to prove it.



Then should DO be called a liar?

And if he is willing to provide proof that he has won,
should his proof be rejected as faked before it's examined?
darkoz
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November 25th, 2020 at 7:19:38 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

I think it would be great to meet you. I generally find your posts agreeable, informative and interesting. Seeing you play and maybe learning a thing or two would be worth the cost of dinner, and I always like meeting other APs in person or otherwise. Unfortunately due to some medical stuff and Covid I haven't been putting in as many hours at my job or APing this year and am not likely to fly in the near future since cases are picking up.

Even though I won't be there I hope it goes well for you and whoever else shows if anyone accepts.



Your post makes all my posts worthwhile.

Thank you
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Minty
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November 25th, 2020 at 7:32:26 PM permalink
Quote: darkoz

Your post makes all my posts worthwhile.

Thank you



And thank you for posting!

I know you have some naysayers here and I do understand and respect their concerns of losing income due to too much information being out there. I empathize and realize that if information was more widespread that both myself and people I care about would suffer for it.

With that in mind, I do encourage you to realize that when people challenge you on claims of income, ability or character posting more in depth info about AP will only aggravate people. Those same people will likely be angry at you for revealing information and you have nothing to gain from it.

I'm not saying this is what you were planning or even going to do, but I could see this thread leading to people egging you on, you reacting and then others getting filled with righteous indignation towards you.

Again, I want to mention how valuable you are to the forum, but I just wanted to get that out there because I'd hate to see this thread lead to one or more others that end up spiralling in a negative direction.
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darkoz
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November 25th, 2020 at 7:43:27 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

And thank you for posting!

I know you have some naysayers here and I do understand and respect their concerns of losing income due to too much information being out there. I empathize and realize that if information was more widespread that both myself and people I care about would suffer for it.

With that in mind, I do encourage you to realize that when people challenge you on claims of income, ability or character posting more in depth info about AP will only aggravate people. Those same people will likely be angry at you for revealing information and you have nothing to gain from it.

I'm not saying this is what you were planning or even going to do, but I could see this thread leading to people egging you on, you reacting and then others getting filled with righteous indignation towards you.

Again, I want to mention how valuable you are to the forum, but I just wanted to get that out there because I'd hate to see this thread lead to one or more others that end up spiralling in a negative direction.



Appreciated!

I definitely wasn't going to give up my knowledge of gaining offers to Coach Belly, lol.
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coachbelly
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November 25th, 2020 at 7:58:59 PM permalink
Quote: Minty

I do encourage you to realize that when people challenge you on claims of income, ability or character posting more in depth info about AP will only aggravate people.



People ask him to prove his claims after he has aggravated others and called them liars.

If he were considerate and supportive then he likely wold not have challengers.
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November 26th, 2020 at 5:54:14 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

People ask him to prove his claims after he has aggravated others and called them liars.

If he were considerate and supportive then he likely wold not have challengers.



I will 'challenge' him once I get a vaccine and am comfortable traveling. I fully expect him to win the challenge. But some of my favorite days were when I tailed Axel watching his plays, and had Pink help me AP some slots and Ultimate X. And put some techniques Mission gave me to use. I am looking forward to watching darkoz do what he does.

If MDawg would meet up with me without a bet (I don't consider buying darkoz dinner losing a bet), I most certainly would. And despite my skepticism, I would love nothing more than to see him win! To me, this forum is about learning new ideas, and meeting new people, not taking their money.
darkoz
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November 27th, 2020 at 2:20:50 PM permalink
I despise hypocrisy!

A few people have pointed out any suggestions of dinner during a pandemic (while I have been vehemently stating my strong position of masks and shutdowns) is being a hypocrite.

And they were right. I can't stand hypocrisy even when it comes from me (we all are guilty occasionally. Takes a good amount of strength to admit imo)

It's very quiet in NY virus-wise so out of sight, out of mind (or out of my mind, little joke there)

So, change in challenge to accommodate.

Gambling part remains the same. Inside the casino we will be wearing masks. I'm going to be surrounded by other masked wearers anyway.

And in AC there is no smoking at this time not eating in the gaming floor. You can take your mask down to drink and then have to replace your mask, security is being stringent on this. And some places are doing temperature checks.

After gambling we will go to a quieter spot, the boardwalk or some casinos have lounge areas and we can chat for fifteen or twenty minutes masks on just to recap the play.

Then whoever lost pays for dinner as takeout and we go our merry ways to eat alone. Most of the restaurants, even the fancy ones have it now due to Covid-19.

After covid is settled down we can go back to dinner and speaking without masks
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unJon
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November 28th, 2020 at 3:03:23 AM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Exactly..so the only option left is to block his doubters...and that's what he's done.

SUBMISSION...he has submitted...he is finished.



What did is his submission prove in your opinion?
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July 15th, 2021 at 10:39:25 AM permalink
This topic of front loading got me to thinking.

My formula on the target point to play a must-hit-by progressive is based on when does a single bet become positive EV.

However, after fiddling with some numbers, if we assume the player is going to play until a must-hit-by is hit, then I show there is positive EV in playing below that point. It's better to not play hope other players pump up the jackpot and leave, but if you're swinging through a casino and won't return for a while, then, yes, I show the breakeven target point is about twice as far from the must-hit-by point as the point if going by a positive EV on the next bet.

I think I'll working on the target point for such a patient player.
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