coachbelly
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September 23rd, 2020 at 4:04:52 PM permalink
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i have $125 slot play at Ballys on multiple days but im not going till the diamond lounges are open.



Ballys & Caesars Laurel (Diamond) lounges are open, but without buffets - table service from menus.

Harrahs moved their DL from the valet parking area to the Coastal Craft restaurant.
100xOdds
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September 24th, 2020 at 3:04:37 AM permalink
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Do you live far from there?
I have a regular dillema of how much time I am willing to invest for "x" amount of freeplay. I regularly get between $100 and $300 free play per week for a casino 90 miles away. How often do I go? It just depends, some days I will go for $140 and some days it might take $240 to go. It costs me about 3.5 hours round trip to collect it.


3.5hr drive each way
but i have relatives in nyc (2hrs from ac).
time my stay in ac for 2-3 nights such that pick up the $125 free play for current period and the next period.
then goto nyc for a few nights, then back to ac for 1 overnight for $125 then back home.
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FatGeezus
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September 25th, 2020 at 8:00:31 AM permalink
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smoking in NJ is pretty much prohibited everywhere (even many outdoor areas such as beaches), and NJ has been looking for an excuse to ban smoking in casinos since the mid 2000s, I fear this may be it.



I'm happy this may be it!




As a nonsmoker (as I am by the way except when I am at casinos) you already have the vast majority of the building to be free of smoking. I don't understand why so many feel this is unfair.



You can't have it both ways. I think that you are a former smoker and won't admit it.
Gandler
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September 25th, 2020 at 8:39:32 AM permalink
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smoking in NJ is pretty much prohibited everywhere (even many outdoor areas such as beaches), and NJ has been looking for an excuse to ban smoking in casinos since the mid 2000s, I fear this may be it.



I'm happy this may be it!




As a nonsmoker (as I am by the way except when I am at casinos) you already have the vast majority of the building to be free of smoking. I don't understand why so many feel this is unfair.



You can't have it both ways. I think that you are a former smoker and won't admit it.



I use non-tobbaco nicotine products regularly (former dipper).

There is nothing for me to "admit" , I have been very open about my former tobacco / current nicotine use on here and DT.

I am mostly a former dipper (gross habbit), and kind of a former smoker (mostly when in countries where smokeless tobacco is illegal).

I love nicotine and plan to continue to use safer tobacco free nicotine alternatives for the foreseeable future, including gum, lozenges, nic pocuhes (my current favorite), and even patches occasionally. I donít consider whyself a tobacco user currently because I use tobacco free nicotine infused products.

So yes I am a former smoker (though more of a former dipper).
However, I do like to smoke one place, casinos, I buy a pack of Lucky Strikes before I go (partly because of the irony of the name, partly because I donít like filtered cigarettes when I do smoke).

I am not sure how any of that invalidates my argument, that a city-level 25/75 solution is very fair. Most of the casino is nonsmoking (in AC), you have 75% of the floor if you don't like 2nd hand smoke....
billryan
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September 25th, 2020 at 10:07:30 AM permalink
There are countries that allow smoking but ban smokeless tobacco products? That seems ass backward.
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Gandler
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September 25th, 2020 at 11:05:56 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

There are countries that allow smoking but ban smokeless tobacco products? That seems ass backward.



Every country in the EU (Sweden is the one exception as they were grandfathered in due to snus).

Also, many Islamic countries (due to spitting prohibitions).
billryan
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September 25th, 2020 at 12:29:43 PM permalink
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Every country in the EU (Sweden is the one exception as they were grandfathered in due to snus).

Also, many Islamic countries (due to spitting prohibitions).



Thanks. I had no idea.
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September 25th, 2020 at 2:37:54 PM permalink
Quote: billryan

Thanks. I had no idea.



In much of the world if you are hooked on nicotine, smoking is your only option. I am not 100% sure but I think even Australia and New Zealand have a ban on smokeless tobacco (never been to either).

Outside of America and Canada (and even in Canada dip is very heavily regulated, somebody recently told me Copenhagen and Skoal -kind of the dip equivalent of Marlboro and Camel, popular "premium" brands, except they are not competing, same owner, for those that don't dip- is now over 25-30 USD a can in much of Canada, versus, 2-3 USD in much of America, and if I recall correctly the cans are slightly smaller, but I might be remembering wrong this was years ago and even then it was over 15 USD for "cheap" brands, in any case a can of dip costs far more than a pack of the most expensive cigarettes, if you dip and visit Canada bring plenty with you, total rip off), anyway, outside of U.S. and Canada dip and chewing tobacco is heavily stigmatized (even if it is non-arguably "safer"). And, that is not even counting snus (which takes out the need to spit which is what turns most people off, and is far safer than dip and chew, even according to the FDA which allowed some approved brands to label themselves as reduced harm).

But, yeah smokeless tobacco is a very North Americans thing (and Swedish if you count snus). Its a shame, because it can save a lot of smokers if they were able to switch, but weird trade rules and stigma based laws make smokeless tobacco an option not available in much of the industrialized world outside of North America. Even in countries where you can still smoke virtually everywhere, smokeless tobacco is not to be found. The reason vaping is so popular in other countries is because that is the only legal alternative to smoking for many (U.K. for example had a massive vape surge, but now that it is out of the EU, it will be interesting to see if smokeless tobacco will once again be allowed back).

In any case, that is my view on smokeless tobacco (better than smoking if you have to use tobacco, using tobacco-free nicotine products better still), and more countries need to rethink their tobacco restrictions (especially countries with huge populations of smokers).

But, to return to my original point, casinos are supposed to be a place where you can let loose and do things that you cannot do anywhere else, smoking should be allowed in at least a segment of it (again I think the 25/75 compromise was very fair for AC, and other cities can make rules that suite them, we don't need a state level ban). I think that this should be something that should be regulated by local government based on the needs and desires of the local market (for example AC briefly experimented with a total ban, did not work, so they made the 25/75 rule).
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September 25th, 2020 at 7:25:03 PM permalink
Quote: Gandler

In much of the world if you are hooked on nicotine, smoking is your only option. I am not 100% sure but I think even Australia and New Zealand have a ban on smokeless tobacco (never been to either).

Outside of America and Canada (and even in Canada dip is very heavily regulated, somebody recently told me Copenhagen and Skoal -kind of the dip equivalent of Marlboro and Camel, popular "premium" brands, except they are not competing, same owner, for those that don't dip- is now over 25-30 USD a can in much of Canada, versus, 2-3 USD in much of America, and if I recall correctly the cans are slightly smaller, but I might be remembering wrong this was years ago and even then it was over 15 USD for "cheap" brands, in any case a can of dip costs far more than a pack of the most expensive cigarettes, if you dip and visit Canada bring plenty with you, total rip off), anyway, outside of U.S. and Canada dip and chewing tobacco is heavily stigmatized (even if it is non-arguably "safer"). And, that is not even counting snus (which takes out the need to spit which is what turns most people off, and is far safer than dip and chew, even according to the FDA which allowed some approved brands to label themselves as reduced harm).

But, yeah smokeless tobacco is a very North Americans thing (and Swedish if you count snus). Its a shame, because it can save a lot of smokers if they were able to switch, but weird trade rules and stigma based laws make smokeless tobacco an option not available in much of the industrialized world outside of North America. Even in countries where you can still smoke virtually everywhere, smokeless tobacco is not to be found. The reason vaping is so popular in other countries is because that is the only legal alternative to smoking for many (U.K. for example had a massive vape surge, but now that it is out of the EU, it will be interesting to see if smokeless tobacco will once again be allowed back).

In any case, that is my view on smokeless tobacco (better than smoking if you have to use tobacco, using tobacco-free nicotine products better still), and more countries need to rethink their tobacco restrictions (especially countries with huge populations of smokers).

But, to return to my original point, casinos are supposed to be a place where you can let loose and do things that you cannot do anywhere else, smoking should be allowed in at least a segment of it (again I think the 25/75 compromise was very fair for AC, and other cities can make rules that suite them, we don't need a state level ban). I think that this should be something that should be regulated by local government based on the needs and desires of the local market (for example AC briefly experimented with a total ban, did not work, so they made the 25/75 rule).


Iím a weirdo that chews nicotine gum almost daily yet never smoked.

There are plenty of tobacco free nicotine products on the market, like tobacco free nicotine snus pouches that are getting popular.
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September 26th, 2020 at 7:42:11 AM permalink
About twenty years ago, I was at JFK airport waiting on a flight to Puerto Rico when I bought a bottle of water from a concession stand.
I took a swig of it and it tasted like it came out of a sewer. Thats when I noticed the brand. It was called Nica-water and when I read the label it was water infused with nicotine, designed for smokers to get their buzz while not smoking. I'm pretty sure it never caught on, as I have not seen it in years.
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