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April 25th, 2021 at 6:26:09 AM permalink
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You are a wise man. I am thinking of starting a cult, you are welcome to join and I will waive the admittance fee. I will not be serving the Kool-Aid, but feel free to bring your own. You can head up the compound security if you like,



Nice! Let's do it!
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April 25th, 2021 at 6:27:39 AM permalink
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That's ridiculous. Besides living longer, the quality of life all along the way is far superior. Whether you choose to go in for all the new technology or not, at a minimum, eat right and exercise regularly.



I'm not advocating for Cyrenaic Hedonism, as I said, there's no reason to speed up the process.
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April 25th, 2021 at 6:33:32 AM permalink
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Yeah, but I think many are trying to defend a certain part of math theory. The losing part but not the winning part.



What precisely in the hell are you talking about? Nobody said that winning is not possible.

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One poster recently used a swathe of incredible mathematical vocabulary within long posts, to debunk me and my strategy.



No need to thank me. Being right is its own reward.

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So I decided to go through his posts and nearly every one of them was flawed. There was one that wasn’t flawed, and I simply agreed with it. He then asked me to explain my strategy! So on what basis was this poster debunking my strategy in such a colourful way, when he needed me to explain my strategy that he was debunking?



If you declare it to be, then it must be. I am clearly outmatched. You know, my nine-year-old daughter often thinks she has me outmatched in a battle of the wits. Maybe you're both right.

You still have yet to present your strategy. I am waiting. Either way, if it doesn't change the House Edge, it's irrelevant. That said, I am more than happy to dissect the full strategy and reveal each individual flaw in it to you.

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I didn’t explain my strategy. There’s enough of that in some threads that some are too lazy to read. I then see him filling up my thread again! Poor devil

Maybe he’s trying to defend himself? Do you think I care? He can say all he likes, but where’s the substance and advancement in knowledge?



Defend myself? From you? You're adorable!
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April 25th, 2021 at 7:13:44 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear


I think the claim of hitting 15 of a 16 hand banker streak fits the 'with no effort at all' part.
(1 / 0.4585) ^ 15 = 120201
Just sayin'



OD,

I know because of the challenge people think I am suddenly some MDawg fanatic but I call it like I see it.

Years ago I searched for streaks at roulette. I witnessed plenty. Probably imo I missed about fifteen or twenty in a small six months period. They seemed to elude me (literally be right there on a board as I arrived and then never showed up when I took my wagers.

But I did catch at least two of 16 reds or black in a row and one that went an astounding 32 reds. And my fear it was going to end, I didn't press that high like I should have.

After I started my AP career(and no longer searched for streaks as it was a losing method for me) I had generated at one point a really lousy offer. Once a week a $75 freebet at the table. Literally after losing thousands this was no way I would be able to recoup.

So I threw a hail Mary. Every single direct bet I decided to let it ride until table max, grab my winning, and then continue IF I HIT A STREAK. Yes, it was a hail Mary.

First three weeks my vouchers returned zero. And in fact lost the very first wager.

But the fourth week I caught my streak on a color. I chickened out a bit and went in a slower progression to table max and kick myself now but it was still a 15 of a sixteen run at a roulette streak.

And yes, I memorialized it here (sans a few details of my AP at the time) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/18987-caesars-ac-trip-report/

I made $3500 in half an hour at a $5 roulette table.



So, while MDawg makes fantastic seeming claims I also have witnessed and played into strange things at the casino.

Your opinion on this?

Thanks
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April 25th, 2021 at 9:47:39 AM permalink
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What precisely in the hell are you talking about? Nobody said that winning is not possible.



No need to thank me. Being right is its own reward.



If you declare it to be, then it must be. I am clearly outmatched. You know, my nine-year-old daughter often thinks she has me outmatched in a battle of the wits. Maybe you're both right.

You still have yet to present your strategy. I am waiting. Either way, if it doesn't change the House Edge, it's irrelevant. That said, I am more than happy to dissect the full strategy and reveal each individual flaw in it to you.



Defend myself? From you? You're adorable!



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April 25th, 2021 at 10:05:28 AM permalink
It's not permissible to raise permanently a credit line while staying at the resort. I already doubled all lines a year or so ago.

However, the other casinos consider me "away" so I requested and already raised the lines again just in the past few days at two casinos, and will do the same for all of them soon. I won't play any harder, but will be better able to further negotiate what I negotiate with the even higher lines.
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April 25th, 2021 at 10:07:20 AM permalink
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Last night as I left the high limit salon I stopped at a blackjack table that was pretty close to the salon exit. There was no dealer or pit boss I know there, I just stopped at it. I don't even know what possessed me to stop there.

The table was pretty full. A white guy was on third base, and to his left a black guy who was with him, clearly the two were together. I stood there maybe five seconds, looked down, and there it was, a five hundred dollar chip. I am not sure what directed the black guy to look down at close to the same moment, but he saw it too. I put my foot on the chip, leaned down and picked it up.

"Is this yours?"

"Yes."

"You swear?"

"Yes."

"All right, well, if I had lost that I'd want someone to return it to me." and I handed him the chip.

At that moment, I was leaving the floor with over thirty times that in winnings in my pocket, so I wasn't in any kind of chip hungry mood. I suppose what compelled me to give the guy the chip, was that I knew it wasn't mine, and no matter what, there was more of a chance that it belonged to him than to me. It just didn't occur to me to be sneaky about it and keep my foot over it and try to get it.

I went over the amusing incident with my wife, and we debated over whether the chip really belonged to him.

"Anyway, one thing it proves," she said finally, "is that you have a sixth sense for money. You said that you never have stopped by that table before, and you had no reason to be there, and yet there you were."



What ya' think? Was it his chip, or not? I only know - it wasn't my chip.
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April 25th, 2021 at 10:23:49 AM permalink
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OD,

I know because of the challenge people think I am suddenly some MDawg fanatic but I call it like I see it.

Years ago I searched for streaks at roulette. I witnessed plenty. Probably imo I missed about fifteen or twenty in a small six months period. They seemed to elude me (literally be right there on a board as I arrived and then never showed up when I took my wagers.

But I did catch at least two of 16 reds or black in a row and one that went an astounding 32 reds. And my fear it was going to end, I didn't press that high like I should have.

After I started my AP career(and no longer searched for streaks as it was a losing method for me) I had generated at one point a really lousy offer. Once a week a $75 freebet at the table. Literally after losing thousands this was no way I would be able to recoup.

So I threw a hail Mary. Every single direct bet I decided to let it ride until table max, grab my winning, and then continue IF I HIT A STREAK. Yes, it was a hail Mary.

First three weeks my vouchers returned zero. And in fact lost the very first wager.

But the fourth week I caught my streak on a color. I chickened out a bit and went in a slower progression to table max and kick myself now but it was still a 15 of a sixteen run at a roulette streak.

And yes, I memorialized it here (sans a few details of my AP at the time) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/18987-caesars-ac-trip-report/

I made $3500 in half an hour at a $5 roulette table.



So, while MDawg makes fantastic seeming claims I also have witnessed and played into strange things at the casino.

Your opinion on this?

Thanks

You asked....
In the MDawg Challenge Meetup Write-up, you see MDawg doing something with an AP edge. Clearly you are down the rabbit-hole trying to figure what the AP is.
What I see in the report is a well banked ploppie session that almost doubled the buy-in. Something that is easy and likely to achieve if one has the brass neck to demo it. Had that shoe gone badly for him, he could have brought into play more and bigger markers and continued his ploppie play to a most likely successful and most likely profitable outcome. I do now accept that he probably* does have sufficient lines of credit to bankroll his high-roller play. He might even actually be a winning High roller. But I still seriously doubt it.
If he has some mysterious advantage play, which could be as simple as dealer ########## exploitation of a careless dealer* , then he really messed up in revealing it to the house, which surely follows this thread. Whatever he revealed to wizard is locked away, and not worth speculating on. I opine that Wizard would have been easily duped. He sure never said. " I saw how MDawg had quite a sneaky advantage, but I just cannot reveal it". Mike would have been suitably impresses with the simple $200 Marty strategy that he himself described, but which was a million miles from the challenge spirit. That is not to his credit in terms of judgement.
I see nothing really remarkable and I see no advantage play in play. It might have gone badly for MDawg, but I agree it didn't.
That you, DarkOz claim to have seen some 'remarkable' streak events and even profited from them, is not in doubt. But none of us is untouched by cognitive bias.
I have my own theories about MDawg and those theories evolve as more evidence creeps out.
Still looking forward to the day he honestly reports converting buy-ins of 8k, 20k, 20k, 50k and maybe another 100k before going to his suite to write up his trip report about how it wasn't his day.
Doubt it will happen though.

* Heaven forbid anyone considers me to be accusing anyone of wrong-doing!
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April 25th, 2021 at 10:28:10 AM permalink
Quote: MDawg

Last night as I left the high limit salon I stopped at a blackjack table that was pretty close to the salon exit. There was no dealer or pit boss I know there, I just stopped at it. I don't even know what possessed me to stop there.

The table was pretty full. A white guy was on third base, and to his left a black guy who was with him, clearly the two were together. I stood there maybe five seconds, looked down, and there it was, a five hundred dollar chip. I am not sure what directed the black guy to look down at close to the same moment, but he saw it too. I put my foot on the chip, leaned down and picked it up.

"Is this yours?"

"Yes."

"You swear?"

"Yes."

"All right, well, if I had lost that I'd want someone to return it to me." and I handed him the chip.

At that moment, I was leaving the floor with over thirty times that in winnings in my pocket, so I wasn't in any kind of chip hungry mood. I suppose what compelled me to give the guy the chip, was that I knew it wasn't mine, and no matter what, there was more of a chance that it belonged to him than to me. It just didn't occur to me to be sneaky about it and keep my foot over it and try to get it.

I went over the amusing incident with my wife, and we debated over whether the chip really belonged to him.

"Anyway, one thing it proves," she said finally, "is that you have a sixth sense for money. You said that you never have stopped by that table before, and you had no reason to be there, and yet there you were."

Why is the race of the other guy relevant? You described the two as males, but didn't mention their age, height, weight, hair, eyes, clothes or any other descriptor.
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April 25th, 2021 at 10:28:20 AM permalink
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Keep up the good work.


Thanks SooPoo!
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April 25th, 2021 at 10:42:28 AM permalink
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Need I say anymore? Keep it up. Write to yourself.



You don't need to say anymore, but you keep doing it anyway.
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April 25th, 2021 at 11:05:23 AM permalink
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Quote: darkoz

OD,

I know because of the challenge people think I am suddenly some MDawg fanatic but I call it like I see it.

Years ago I searched for streaks at roulette. I witnessed plenty. Probably imo I missed about fifteen or twenty in a small six months period. They seemed to elude me (literally be right there on a board as I arrived and then never showed up when I took my wagers.

But I did catch at least two of 16 reds or black in a row and one that went an astounding 32 reds. And my fear it was going to end, I didn't press that high like I should have.

After I started my AP career(and no longer searched for streaks as it was a losing method for me) I had generated at one point a really lousy offer. Once a week a $75 freebet at the table. Literally after losing thousands this was no way I would be able to recoup.

So I threw a hail Mary. Every single direct bet I decided to let it ride until table max, grab my winning, and then continue IF I HIT A STREAK. Yes, it was a hail Mary.

First three weeks my vouchers returned zero. And in fact lost the very first wager.

But the fourth week I caught my streak on a color. I chickened out a bit and went in a slower progression to table max and kick myself now but it was still a 15 of a sixteen run at a roulette streak.

And yes, I memorialized it here (sans a few details of my AP at the time) https://wizardofvegas.com/forum/gambling/trip-reports/18987-caesars-ac-trip-report/

I made $3500 in half an hour at a $5 roulette table.



So, while MDawg makes fantastic seeming claims I also have witnessed and played into strange things at the casino.

Your opinion on this?

Thanks

You asked....
In the MDawg Challenge Meetup Write-up, you see MDawg doing something with an AP edge. Clearly you are down the rabbit-hole trying to figure what the AP is.
What I see in the report is a well banked ploppie session that almost doubled the buy-in. Something that is easy and likely to achieve if one has the brass neck to demo it. Had that shoe gone badly for him, he could have brought into play more and bigger markers and continued his ploppie play to a most likely successful and most likely profitable outcome. I do now accept that he probably* does have sufficient lines of credit to bankroll his high-roller play. He might even actually be a winning High roller. But I still seriously doubt it.
If he has some mysterious advantage play, which could be as simple as dealer collusion, then he really messed up in revealing it to the house, which surely follows this thread. Whatever he revealed to wizard is locked away, and not worth speculating on. I opine that Wizard would have been easily duped. He sure never said. " I saw how MDawg had quite a sneaky advantage, but I just cannot reveal it". Mike would have been suitably impresses with the simple $200 Marty strategy that he himself described, but which was a million miles from the challenge spirit. That is not to his credit in terms of judgement.
I see nothing really remarkable and I see no advantage play in play. It might have gone badly for MDawg, but I agree it didn't.
That you, DarkOz claim to have seen some 'remarkable' streak events and even profited from them, is not in doubt. But none of us is untouched by cognitive bias.
I have my own theories about MDawg and those theories evolve as more evidence creeps out.
Still looking forward to the day he honestly reports converting buy-ins of 8k, 20k, 20k, 50k and maybe another 100k before going to his suite to write up his trip report about how it wasn't his day.
Doubt it will happen though.



I didn't make myself clear enough. I was hoping to get the odds of 15 out of 16 at roulette which happened to me.

I don't think I have cognitive bias. As I said my search for a streak method of beating roulette led to losing plays. I don't deny that so don't see any bias.

The winning sessions with streaks were overcome by the losing ones without.

I'm just saying that to dismiss winning a streak at of all games, Baccarat, is not the right way to go.

I can easily see MDawg hitting a streak of wins.

His consistent winning is due to some other advantage
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April 25th, 2021 at 11:13:03 AM permalink
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Still looking forward to the day he honestly reports converting buy-ins of 8k, 20k, 20k, 50k and maybe another 100k before going to his suite to write up his trip report about how it wasn't his day.



You're looking forward to the inevitable massive loss that wipes out all previous winnings...and then some?

That sounds like confirmation bias.

Are you hoping for it to happen?
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April 25th, 2021 at 7:45:23 PM permalink
Day 33

Drew a 12K marker. Played 4.5 shoes. I had one pretty large bet don't even recall what it was, I won. Lots of 2000 - 3000 bets.

When I made that large bet I believe I was down a couple thousand. I was up as much as five thousand at the high point, down at least a thousand at some points, and on the last shoe, I kept hitting ties and this brought me to +3000 and at the dealer's urging to "not give it back," I left.

Relatively uneventful day.

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April 26th, 2021 at 4:48:52 AM permalink
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Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.



Why not just make this redundant line your signature instead of posting it at the end of every recent trip report?
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April 26th, 2021 at 5:23:49 AM permalink
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Day 33

Drew a 12K marker. Played 4.5 shoes. I had one pretty large bet don't even recall what it was, I won. Lots of 2000 - 3000 bets.

When I made that large bet I believe I was down a couple thousand. I was up as much as five thousand at the high point, down at least a thousand at some points, and on the last shoe, I kept hitting ties and this brought me to +3000 and at the dealer's urging to "not give it back," I left.

Relatively uneventful day.

Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.



Are you drawing bigger markers (12k versus 8k) because you are willing to risk more since you are up a bunch this trip? Or is it just to up the visibility to get better comps?

Earlier you mentioned that you can’t up your credit limit while on property. Why is that? Is there some sort of law or regulation that prevents a casino from doing so?
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April 26th, 2021 at 5:57:27 AM permalink
Whether it be a Gaming Control regulation or casino wide policy, permanent credit line increases are not granted while on property. Anyone requesting a credit line increase while on property would usually be doing so because he is losing - and wants more chips to play after blowing out most or all of the line. Granting a permanent line increase based on what might just be a temporary urge would not be responsible gaming.

While on property, if a line is blown out, casinos do grant temporary credit line increases (called TTOs) but once the trip ends, or the line is paid down or paid off the TTO disappears. Typically a casino will grant a 25% TTO without much question. In general, I think TTOs are a bad idea. In the heat of play someone who has blown out his line will probably just lose quickly that additional 25%.


I don't always draw the same initial marker, anywhere from 12 - 30K. At the moment yes you could say that I am drawing larger markers because I am so far ahead, but also sometimes I draw larger markers because I keep getting these awesome shoes and winning "only" 5-15K on them, and realize that if I had more chips in front of me on such shoes I would feel more comfortable betting more.

It may work both ways though - having too many chips in front of you during a downward spiral may be a bad thing.
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April 26th, 2021 at 6:21:33 AM permalink
Looks really windy out there again in Vegas - and overcast two days running too.
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April 26th, 2021 at 6:34:28 AM permalink
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Looks really windy out there again in Vegas - and overcast two days running too.



Is it windy right now, or was this last night, or was this last year? Perhaps, for security reasons, like your session reports, these weather reports may not necessarily be presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.
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April 26th, 2021 at 10:44:47 AM permalink
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True, the value of this 100K chip will not go down. And assuming I don't backslide, it, plus all other winning chips, will be converted to a casino check at the end of the trip.


You’ll have to get your wife to take photos of it in your hand, and keep the photos for posterity.


I thought of the perfect graphic. The 100K chip. A 100K Rolex. And a 100 Grand candy bar.

The hard part will be getting hold of the candy bar. I don't think they are are readily available on the Strip.
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April 26th, 2021 at 12:43:28 PM permalink
Walgreen's. Go crazy.
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April 26th, 2021 at 7:11:04 PM permalink
Done, and thanks! for the Walgreen's suggestion. The 100 Grand candy bars aren't as hard to come by as I thought.

When I brought a couple into the suite my wife immediately said, I like those, and wanted to eat one.

"Hold on! not until I take a picture."
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April 26th, 2021 at 7:13:21 PM permalink
Day 34 play

It is getting repetitive I must say, but I could do with this kind of monotony. It won't always be this easy.

I believe it was - two and half shoes? Changed tables at least once. 12K marker, paid back, plus +11K to the good. Not down at any point.

Ole!

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April 26th, 2021 at 7:43:10 PM permalink
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Day 34 play

It is getting repetitive I must say, but I could do with this kind of monotony. It won't always be this easy.

I believe it was - two and half shoes? Changed tables at least once. 12K marker, paid back, plus +11K to the good. Not down at any point.

Ole!

Note: Lately, for security reasons, session reports are not necessarily presented in real time corresponding directly to the day played.



Well done.

I'm not sure what a 100 Grand Candy Bar is though?
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April 26th, 2021 at 8:04:42 PM permalink
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Day 34 play

It is getting repetitive I must say, but I could do with this kind of monotony. It won't always be this easy.

I believe it was - two and half shoes? Changed tables at least once. 12K marker, paid back, plus +11K to the good. Not down at any point.

Ole!

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Well done.

I'm not sure what a 100 Grand Candy Bar is though?

Aren’t you?
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April 27th, 2021 at 5:22:22 AM permalink
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Day 34 play

It is getting repetitive I must say, but I could do with this kind of monotony. It won't always be this easy.

I believe it was - two and half shoes? Changed tables at least once. 12K marker, paid back, plus +11K to the good. Not down at any point.

Ole!

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This is quite a long trip! At the end of it, do you get an actual check for the $100k+? Or do they do an ACH money transfer?
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April 27th, 2021 at 6:05:29 AM permalink
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Day 34 play

It is getting repetitive I must say, but I could do with this kind of monotony. It won't always be this easy.

I believe it was - two and half shoes? Changed tables at least once. 12K marker, paid back, plus +11K to the good. Not down at any point.

Ole!

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When it gets windy there, MD, does the sand blow everywhere?
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:04:36 AM permalink
WellBush, other than perhaps the sand that has been imported to line some of the artificial "beaches" around some of the casino pools, there is no sand to blow around in metropolitan Vegas! My tell that it is windy outside comes from viewing any trees that line the swimming pools or Strip that I may see from the suite windows.

When I went outside yesterday in the afternoon, the wind seemed to have died down completely.

From the looks of it, the wind is mild right now outside.
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:07:17 AM permalink
SooPoo, as I have posted many times before, at the end of a win (whether session or trip), the casino will convert winning chips to cash, check or will bank wire (wire, not ACH) the funds. I have received pit winnings in all three forms before.

Check and bank wire are not reported. Cash payout over 10K / 24 hours is reported.

Convert too many chips to winnings, in any form, and the casino will close temporarily your credit line, which is why I just stockpile them until we leave.
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:14:22 AM permalink
By the way, there is one other rule you will run into if you stay in Vegas as long as we do at times. If you stay too long in a Las Vegas hotel room, you become considered a resident. I am not sure exactly what the repercussions are for the casino - maybe they may no longer charge room tax (which we don't pay anyway - it is all comp'ed) or maybe they can't "evict" you as easily if you don't pay, but in any case, after a certain number of days (between 21 - 30 depending on the casino resort), they either:

1) ask you to leave (unilaterally, some casino resorts have no other option)

2) ask you to move to another suite (a "trick" which restarts the clock under some hotels' policies).

We ran into this the last time we were here, and have run / are running into it again now.

As far as the casino itself is concerned, which is not necessarily the same way the hotel views it - stay away for three days, and the clock resets (such as for the temporary closing of your credit line after cashing out all winning chips).

I am telling you, I have done this for so long, and in so many different ways, that I have learned all the rules, and all the angles for how to beat Vegas, in all respects.
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:17:03 AM permalink
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SooPoo, as I have posted many times before

SooPoo: Please pay attention. As you know, time that Mdawg takes to respond to things like this is time that he is not at the table winning.
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:57:27 AM permalink
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By the way, there is one other rule you will run into if you stay in Vegas as long as we do at times. If you stay too long in a Las Vegas hotel room, you become considered a resident. I am not sure exactly what the repercussions are for the casino - maybe they may no longer charge room tax (which we don't pay anyway - it is all comp'ed) or maybe they can't "evict" you as easily if you don't pay, but in any case, after a certain number of days (between 21 - 30 depending on the casino resort), they either:

1) ask you to leave (unilaterally, some casino resorts have no other option)

2) ask you to move to another suite (a "trick" which restarts the clock under some hotels' policies).

We ran into this the last time we were here, and have run / are running into it again now.

As far as the casino itself is concerned, which is not necessarily the same way the hotel views it - stay away for three days, and the clock resets (such as for the temporary closing of your credit line after cashing out all winning chips).

I am telling you, I have done this for so long, and in so many different ways, that I have learned all the rules, and all the angles for how to beat Vegas, in all respects.



These are similar rules to hotels in Los Angeles.

I know because when I was homeless at one point I had enough to work out a monthly deal with an LA hotel. I had to checkout every two or three months for a 24 hour period to reset the clock.

The irony that MDawg is basically dealing with homeless type of problems
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April 27th, 2021 at 11:08:39 AM permalink
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By the way, there is one other rule you will run into if you stay in Vegas as long as we do at times. If you stay too long in a Las Vegas hotel room, you become considered a resident. I am not sure exactly what the repercussions are for the casino - maybe they may no longer charge room tax (which we don't pay anyway - it is all comp'ed) or maybe they can't "evict" you as easily if you don't pay, but in any case, after a certain number of days (between 21 - 30 depending on the casino resort), they either:

1) ask you to leave (unilaterally, some casino resorts have no other option)

2) ask you to move to another suite (a "trick" which restarts the clock under some hotels' policies).

We ran into this the last time we were here, and have run / are running into it again now.

As far as the casino itself is concerned, which is not necessarily the same way the hotel views it - stay away for three days, and the clock resets (such as for the temporary closing of your credit line after cashing out all winning chips).

I am telling you, I have done this for so long, and in so many different ways, that I have learned all the rules, and all the angles for how to beat Vegas, in all respects.



Or do what Howard Hughes did and buy the Hotel.
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April 27th, 2021 at 12:04:39 PM permalink
The doorman at one of the Vegas casinos, when we'd pull in would ask how long we are staying this time, and then always come back with the same line,

"That should be long enough to become the new owners."
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April 27th, 2021 at 12:07:38 PM permalink
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The doorman at one of the Vegas casinos, when we'd pull in would ask how long we are staying this time, and then always come back with the same line,

"That should be long enough to become the new owners."



And that sir is why he is a doorman.
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April 27th, 2021 at 12:20:28 PM permalink
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The doorman at one of the Vegas casinos

Arizona Charlies ? Ellis Island ?

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And that sir is why he is a doorman.

Well, never hurts to establish a rapport with the new owners.

But WAIT, then MDAWG would be winning money from himself, right ?
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April 27th, 2021 at 12:35:50 PM permalink
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But WAIT, then MDAWG would be winning money from himself, right ?



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April 27th, 2021 at 12:37:08 PM permalink
The doorman at one of the Majors.

Still, if I won enough on any of these trips to buy Ellis Island (I now know where it is - went past it the other day) or Arizona Charles (huh?) I certainly wouldn't complain.


I believe gaming, for some years now this regulation has been in place, doesn't allow a casino owner to play at his own casino. I think this reg was originally enacted to prevent a casino owner from skimming money from his own casino via purported play.

I actually played Baccarat with more than one casino owner at a casino other than the one owned by the player. You'd be surprised at how much such a person would bring to the tables to play with - not as much as you would think. Probably just there for the action, not to make a killing, which is pretty much the same way I play. I play to win but not for a living.
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April 27th, 2021 at 1:46:59 PM permalink
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The doorman at one of the Majors.

Still, if I won enough on any of these trips to buy Ellis Island (I now know where it is - went past it the other day) or Arizona Charles (huh?) I certainly wouldn't complain.

Well, well, well, looks like you have some 'splaining to do.



Waiting.....
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April 27th, 2021 at 2:13:59 PM permalink
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Well, well, well, looks like you have some 'splaining to do.



Waiting.....



This could very well be the post of the Century.
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April 27th, 2021 at 2:49:57 PM permalink
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This could very well be the post of the Century

Awww shucks.....
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April 27th, 2021 at 4:49:04 PM permalink
Next thing he'll tell us is like in that episode of the old TV show Las Vegas, they set up a Lazy Boy right next to the table in the casino and the guy sat there and played and had food delivered to him and slept in the Lazy Boy for days.
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April 27th, 2021 at 5:06:17 PM permalink
I believe in Las Vegas it is not a Gaming rule but a County rule to relocate every month or so or else it becomes a residence.
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April 27th, 2021 at 9:59:24 PM permalink
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Well, well, well, looks like you have some 'splaining to do.



Waiting.....


What may I say...other than perhaps...
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April 27th, 2021 at 10:01:14 PM permalink
Day 35 play

Been betting a little bigger lately, so I pulled a 15K marker to start. I moved between two tables, and was doing all right but not really getting anywhere. Other players kept following me - one was an Asian girl I recall from another casino, and I do recall that we played and won together in the past.

It was up and down though, as I played at a crowded table, and then, mostly just because I got tired of the lag between hands, I left to my own table. Big mistake. A ten Bank run landed right after I left, and that was based on my cut - I had cut that shoe. Sadly, I don't think any of the other players even won on the run, and soon two of them had followed me to the new table, where I gradually dumped the entire 15K.

I then pulled a 40K marker and decided to get serious.

It was still a bit of up and down, as a new player arrived with STACKS of freeplay chips, I mean I had never seen so many. This player eventually produced about forty thousand dollars worth. To get that kind of free play would require some whale or near whale play.

Mostly, that player just gradually converted most of the chips into real ones, winning about half of the hands wagered. These chips were of the "play one hand only - win or lose" variety, versus the "play until you lose" free play chips.

I dumped another ten grand, gradually, and then put 10K on one Player hand and won. After I won, the pit boss commented inanely, "We're going to have to get you the high roller's suite," which, I didn't bother to mention that we were already in it, or one of them, anyway. He knew that, he was just making a funny.

From there, I kept winning, got a 10 Player run, and then an easy pattern shoe, until I was ahead about fifteen hundred, and just quit.

There was some confusion as to where my markers were. The pit boss said they had already been transferred to the cage, but the cage said they didn't have them yet. Finally, I got hold of them, tore out the signatures, and walked.

+1500

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April 27th, 2021 at 10:17:52 PM permalink
So I have been thinking of doing something with the money I am ahead. To make it seem more real. I have been looking at this somewhat ridiculously large diamond ring for my wife. Not by any means in Sultan of Brunei territory, but quite a large diamond.

The only reason the diamond isn't over a million or two, is because of the color. It is a VS1, but its color is pretty low on the scale. It is very well cut and set, and still sparkles incredibly, notwithstanding its color grade. This diamond, because it is what is known as a 3X (means it has an excellent cut, polish and finish), looks fantastic even though it is not anywhere near a top color.

It's in one of the stores in the casinos that sells at a decent price, versus some of the high end casino jewelry stores that sell for 10X wholesale.

"Buy this for your wife, and she will cook for you, she will do whatever you want." was the extent of the sales pitch. I said nothing, I just said that I'd need to do some checking before I even made an offer. I mean, my wife already does everything for me would have been the only possible response, but I wasn't there for the salesperson's chit chat.

The ticker, pushing $400K, but the salesperson already has come down to half of that.

I have family in the diamond business and I can get nearly the same size diamond, exact same VS1, exact same color, wholesale, for about $150K. So, with the ring and all, which includes some channel sets (not worth a whole lot, but they do add something) and their diamond being a bit larger, I've offered $160K, contingent on seeing the grading cert. Supposed to let me know soon.

I haven't mentioned it to her. What's the point? unless it happens.
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April 28th, 2021 at 1:20:47 AM permalink
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Arizona Charlies ? Ellis Island ?

Well, never hurts to establish a rapport with the new owners.

But WAIT, then MDAWG would be winning money from himself, right ?



Yes and no. He would be winning from himself AND all the patrons losing there.

Maybe that means his winning amounts would be 97%, or thereabouts, coming from the losers! If we take away his suite costs, maybe he'd still be walking away with 90% of his winnings. So he'd probably be doing just as well as if he didn't own the casino!
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April 28th, 2021 at 1:31:53 AM permalink
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Day 35 play

Been betting a little bigger lately, so I pulled a 15K marker to start. I moved between two tables, and was doing all right but not really getting anywhere. Other players kept following me - one was an Asian girl I recall from another casino, and I do recall that we played and won together in the past.

It was up and down though, as I played at a crowded table, and then, mostly just because I got tired of the lag between hands, I left to my own table. Big mistake. A ten Bank run landed right after I left, and that was based on my cut - I had cut that shoe. Sadly, I don't think any of the other players even won on the run, and soon two of them had followed me to the new table, where I gradually dumped the entire 15K.

I then pulled a 40K marker and decided to get serious.

It was still a bit of up and down, as a new player arrived with STACKS of freeplay chips, I mean I had never seen so many. This player eventually produced about forty thousand dollars worth. To get that kind of free play would require some whale or near whale play.

Mostly, that player just gradually converted most of the chips into real ones, winning about half of the hands wagered. These chips were of the "play one hand only - win or lose" variety, versus the "play until you lose" free play chips.

I dumped another ten grand, gradually, and then put 10K on one Player hand and won. After I won, the pit boss commented inanely, "We're going to have to get you the high roller's suite," which, I didn't bother to mention that we were already in it, or one of them, anyway. He knew that, he was just making a funny.

From there, I kept winning, got a 10 Player run, and then an easy pattern shoe, until I was ahead about fifteen hundred, and just quit.

There was some confusion as to where my markers were. The pit boss said they had already been transferred to the cage, but the cage said they didn't have them yet. Finally, I got hold of them, tore out the signatures, and walked.

+1500

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Won again, after a tough session! It's great, but I'm sure many here can't stand the talk! 😆
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April 28th, 2021 at 1:37:01 AM permalink
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So I have been thinking of doing something with the money I am ahead. To make it seem more real. I have been looking at this somewhat ridiculously large diamond ring for my wife. Not by any means in Sultan of Brunei territory, but quite a large diamond.

The only reason the diamond isn't over a million or two, is because of the color. It is a VS1, but its color is pretty low on the scale. It is very well cut and set, and still sparkles incredibly, notwithstanding its color grade. This diamond, because it is what is known as a 3X (means it has an excellent cut, polish and finish), looks fantastic even though it is not anywhere near a top color.

It's in one of the stores in the casinos that sells at a decent price, versus some of the high end casino jewelry stores that sell for 10X wholesale.

"Buy this for your wife, and she will cook for you, she will do whatever you want." was the extent of the sales pitch. I said nothing, I just said that I'd need to do some checking before I even made an offer. I mean, my wife already does everything for me would have been the only possible response, but I wasn't there for the salesperson's chit chat.

The ticker, pushing $400K, but the salesperson already has come down to half of that.

I have family in the diamond business and I can get nearly the same size diamond, exact same VS1, exact same color, wholesale, for about $150K. So, with the ring and all, which includes some channel sets (not worth a whole lot, but they do add something) and their diamond being a bit larger, I've offered $160K, contingent on seeing the grading cert. Supposed to let me know soon.

I haven't mentioned it to her. What's the point? unless it happens.



No, make it a surprise if it comes off. 😀
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April 28th, 2021 at 3:44:54 AM permalink
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Day 35 play
From there, I kept winning, got a 10 Player run, and then an easy pattern shoe, until I was ahead about fifteen hundred, and just quit.

+1500

Won again, after a tough session! It's great, but I'm sure many here can't stand the talk! 😆

Hello Wellbush:

Here's a friendly formatting tip. When you quote MDawg, you can delete out the 13 or so paragraphs that are not pertinent to your comment.

I admit I am making the assumption that everything that MDawg says does not need to be repeated several times. But you do you.
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