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MDawg
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:30:37 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

Dawg is a high roller and bets a lot and loses a lot and that because he loses more than he wins the casinos comp him generously.


This is coming out of nowhere and I resent that you are once again calling me a liar. I have stated categorically that I both win and am comp'ed, including on this last almost seven week trip to Vegas. On what do you base your utter fabrication of the facts here?

If you want to make something up, at least have it not contradict my testimony.
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:35:29 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg

This is coming out of nowhere and I resent that you are once again calling me a liar. I have stated categorically that I both win and am comp'ed, including on this last almost seven week trip to Vegas. On what do you base your utter fabrication of the facts here?



I did NOT call you a liar. I have specifically said that I don't believe your claims AS STATED. That is my right. And I have given the reason, they defy the mathematics.

I am not going to continue this with you. I voiced my opinion, which I have a right to do. I guess if Mike is going to allow and embrace this kind of thing, there is not much I can do about it except to put you on ignore like so many other AP's and members that know better.
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:35:44 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

MDawg is a high roller and bets a lot and loses a lot and that because he loses more than he wins the casinos comp him generously.



It's been explained that casinos comp based on theoretical loss.

Is that not true?...do they comp based on actual wins or losses?
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:37:24 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I did NOT call you a liar. I have specifically said that I don't believe your claims AS STATED. That is my right. And I have given the reason, they defy the mathematics.



No, it's not your right not at this forum to state that the clear facts that someone presents are false, absent some direct proof, according to how the forum rule has been explained to us by the Wizard. I have stated that I am comp'ed and that I win, including specifically during this last almost seven week trip to Vegas. Again, are you saying I am lying? I want to make it clear that I am not goading you into anything, you came out of nowhere with this "theory" of yours, and I have stated categorically prior that I both win and am comp'ed.

And again, if you are so sure that I am lying, why risk a mere forum suspension over it? Accept my Wager - I will return to Vegas to prove that I am truthful and collect your $50,000.
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:38:34 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I did NOT call you a liar. I have specifically said that I don't believe your claims AS STATED.



Saying that you don't believe him is equivalent to calling him a liar.

How else can that be interpreted?
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:50:03 PM permalink
Quote: coachbelly

Saying that you don't believe him is equivalent to calling him a liar.

How else can that be interpreted?



It can be interpreted that I don't believe him, because THAT is what I said. I didn't call him a liar, I said I don't believe these claims as stated.

On this forum, probably 100 different people have voiced their opinion that they don't believe Alan saw 18 yo's in row. No one was suspended for that opinion. Especially when the claims defy the math! Not believing someone is not a personal insult, it is a right.

Similarly many people on this very forum has stated that they don't believe Rob Singer's claims that his progressive wagering can overcome -EV for long-term winning. Wizard himself said that. It is NOT a personal insult to not believe someone and especially when the claims defy math.
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:53:13 PM permalink
Tempora mutantur, nos et mutamur in illis. That sort of thing, calling people liars, is not acceptable from what the Wizard said - UNLESS you have direct proof. You've now called me a liar no less than five times and keep repeating the same.

Stop calling me a liar - instead, put your money where your mouth is and accept the Wager.
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November 26th, 2020 at 8:55:08 PM permalink
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How was the octopus?

I have north-Mediterranean ancestors, always looking for good pulpo.

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It was excellent. It had a delicate but barbecued taste, and my wife is the octopus fan...I generally don't even like octopus that much but this, from Costa di Mare at Wynn, was great.
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November 26th, 2020 at 9:01:34 PM permalink
Quote: kewlj

I said I don't believe these claims as stated.



You are saying that he's not telling the truth.
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November 26th, 2020 at 9:09:10 PM permalink
Quote: MDawg


Stop calling me a liar - instead, put your money where your mouth is and accept the Wager.



Again, I didn't call you a liar. That is your word. Guilty conscience?

No one is going to accept the term you have laid out. It is not an honest wager. Any high roller can get the documentation you are planning to use as proof simply by asking the host. Here is an example: Losing High roller says to host: "I need a printout showing that I am a winning player or my wife isn't going to allow me to gamble any more". He would have that documentation in about 60 seconds.

Nobody is that stupid. Any wager would have to involve witnesses, watching your play, every session, to see if you win every session as you claim and if you are an overall winner. Anything else is nonsense. The other stipulation is going to be that we pick the casinos, tables and dealers. There is going to be no opportunity for collusion with casino personnel favorable to you. No opportunity to stage anything. If you can win every session and win all the time, this shouldn't be an issue.

Now if you want to make arrangements for a wager under these terms, I can put together a group that will take the action. That way we will have plenty of witnesses. Maybe someone can even film it with a body cam. So if you are agreeable to a fair and honest wager of these terms, let me know.

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