gamerfreak
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June 3rd, 2018 at 10:37:51 AM permalink
Quote: billryan

I haven't seen it in Vegas, but at the Sands,AC, I encountered a guy who scavenged drinks and beers people left behind. I thought I saw him doing it but wanted to be sure so next time I saw him I observed. When it was obvious what he was doing, I reported him.


As if that isnít already gross, homeless people will also do this with cigarette butts.
billryan
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June 3rd, 2018 at 10:50:56 AM permalink
In Jackson Heights, we had an old black woman who would come in during happy hour and scrounge butts from the ashtrays.
I was told she'd been doing it for years. I intercepted her one day thinking to ban her. She explained she took them home, unrolled them and rolled her own using the tobacco. She said both her parents smoked and had a two pack a day habit. Instead of taking the train home from work, she walked the two miles, stopping along the way to get her butts and spent her evenings refilling them.
I later found out she was only in her mid 40s. She looked twenty years older.
darkoz
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June 3rd, 2018 at 10:51:31 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

I was not asking your personal ethics, I was asking about property law. I doubt BK would spend the time and money prosecuting you for picking up a dollar bill.
But, why would you go behind the counter to a restricted area to look for dollar bills? That sounds suspicious as is.....

However, casinos are a different matter because they already have an issue with homeless people who literally do nothing all day but wander around and look for dropped chips and tickets..... So it makes sense that casinos crack down in their property, otherwise the problem would be even worse....



You missed the point

I dont go behind the counter looking for money

What im saying is behind the counter the money belongs to the restaurant. Where the public stays and eats lost money is not their property

Also I think the original question has gotten misinterpreted

The question was does mislaid items belong automatically to the casino

Someone mentioned lost sunglasses and would I keep them. I would turn those in but that does not mean they now belong to the casino. I hope we all agree they belong to the original property owner

As for cash, I doubt if I found money on the floor if that money wouldnt make into the pockets of casino security. I find them to be bigger lawbreakers than the rest of us using their position as cover
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EvenBob
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June 3rd, 2018 at 11:07:01 AM permalink
Quote: darkoz

that money wouldnt make into the pockets of casino security. I find them to be bigger lawbreakers than the rest of us using their position as cover



Of course, employee's anywhere are
always the biggest crooks, they have
the access. At Walmart 70% of theft
is from employees and 20% from
the public. 10% is from vendors.

That's why you see so many self
checkout lanes. It's not so a store
can save paying a cashier, it's
to prevent cashier theft. There are
a hundred ways a cashier can collude
with an friend to steal huge amounts.
Switch a label, for instance. Take a
tag off a $12 item and put it on a
$90 item and your cashier friend never
notices. Much harder to do in self
checkout because of the scales. Also
expensive items get you a lot of scrutiny
in self checkout.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
billryan
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June 3rd, 2018 at 11:21:54 AM permalink
I thank EB for his "different" take on so many complicated issues.
aceofspades
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June 3rd, 2018 at 11:35:28 AM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Of course, employee's anywhere are
always the biggest crooks, they have
the access. At Walmart 70% of theft
is from employees and 20% from
the public. 10% is from vendors.

That's why you see so many self
checkout lanes. It's not so a store
can save paying a cashier, it's
to prevent cashier theft. There are
a hundred ways a cashier can collude
with an friend to steal huge amounts.
Switch a label, for instance. Take a
tag off a $12 item and put it on a
$90 item and your cashier friend never
notices. Much harder to do in self
checkout because of the scales. Also
expensive items get you a lot of scrutiny
in self checkout.



I am friendly with some of the employees at my local Target -- just found out a mother/daughter team of employees there got arrested for stealing over $8k in cash and merchandise over the past 3 months
FleaStiff
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June 3rd, 2018 at 11:37:26 AM permalink
Quote: Gandler

, casinos are a different matter because they already have an issue with homeless people who literally do nothing all day but wander around and look for dropped chips and tickets.

That's odd. They always chase me out when I try to do that.
EvenBob
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DeMango
June 3rd, 2018 at 1:31:32 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

I am friendly with some of the employees at my local Target -- just found out a mother/daughter team of employees there got arrested for stealing over $8k in cash and merchandise over the past 3 months



Teams are a nightmare for the chain
stores. They can steal 10's of thousands
in just a few months. Even vendors can
be in cahoots with an employee.

They like to make out like shoplifting
is the big problem when it's just a
fly in the ointment compared to employee
theft. At some Walmart's managers have
been caught filling an entire van with
stuff at 3am. Very common.

I know for a fact all those cameras you
see in stores spend most of their time
monitoring employee's. To nail a
customer for shoplifting now you must
have an airtight case or you can get sued.
I read if you're over 65 at Walmart they
won't even bother you for fear they'll
give you a heart attack and be sued for
$200 grand.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
aceofspades
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DeMango
June 3rd, 2018 at 1:41:37 PM permalink
Quote: EvenBob

Teams are a nightmare for the chain
stores. They can steal 10's of thousands
in just a few months. Even vendors can
be in cahoots with an employee.

They like to make out like shoplifting
is the big problem when it's just a
fly in the ointment compared to employee
theft. At some Walmart's managers have
been caught filling an entire van with
stuff at 3am. Very common.

I know for a fact all those cameras you
see in stores spend most of their time
monitoring employee's. To nail a
customer for shoplifting now you must
have an airtight case or you can get sued.
I read if you're over 65 at Walmart they
won't even bother you for fear they'll
give you a heart attack and be sued for
$200 grand.



New advantage play for the 65+ crowd
billryan
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June 3rd, 2018 at 5:12:11 PM permalink
Quote: aceofspades

New advantage play for the 65+ crowd





Sure, but first you have to figure out what world EB lives on and then how to get there.

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