Two attempted scams in 15 minutes

Last week I had an appointment at the Linq casino. I arrived early, as I almost always do, because I hate to be late. So, I played about 15 minutes of video poker. Yes, the pay tables are awful there, but I want to stay on good terms in Caesars properties and hopefully it will help to put in a little play at a high-edge video poker game. I've heard your offers are largely based on theoretical loss.

Scam #1 happened after about ten minutes of play. A white female, who appeared to be about 35, approached and started to make small talk, She asked me how I was doing, congratulated me for a $400 win I hit about five minutes before she appeared, and seemed to cling on every word I said (something few women do). She complimented me on how smart I seemed and touched my shoulder lots of times. Then the sob story started. Her mother from Houston was just diagnosed with cancer and she came to visit her in Vegas before starting treatment. In showing her mother around the casinos her luck went bad and lost all her money. So, she asked me to put some money into the next machine so we could play together. Very much a version of the hustle I saw in Panama many times. I told her I had seen her act before and wasn't going to buy in. She asked a few more times and finally wandered off.

Scam #2 happened shortly after. An Asian female, around 40 years old, asked me out of the blue why I was playing the game I was when there was a much better one next to me. She then rattled off a pay table that was too good to be true. So I got up and looked at the game. It was a Game King with lots of games. She pulled up an Ultimate X game and showed me the MULTIPLIER pay table. I explained to her that what she was referring to were not guaranteed wins but multipliers on the next hand. She clearly knew that I knew the trick and vanished without even a good-bye. In case you're wondering, I've heard of this scam before. If I had fallen for it she would have watched me play and tried to get me to leave with multipliers on the machine, and then vulture it.

I've seen plenty of scams in Vegas but never so close together. I hope those not familiar with both scams have learned something from this post.

I haven't seen anyone try the vulture hustle around here yet.

Even when I was legitimately vulturing, you get to know the regulars pretty well. This may have been detrimental to me, but to those people, I'd actually tell them they shouldn't leave multipliers. Now people I didn't know we'll, I didn't say a word.

That is some funny s$%t... they had no idea who they were trying to hustle! lol

Ive only had one attempted hustle on me over the years, I guess this is because I like to put on a pissed off face and curse under my breath when I have a lot of money in casinos by myself. No one wants to f*$# with a pissed off crazy guy that looks like he just lost all of his money.

Getting back to the one hustle... Several years ago I was at Caesars in AC ready to play craps. I was watching the table before I jumped in. Some older guy with a ponytail (you may have seen him if you play there) came up to me and said he could make me money on the craps table. Obviously he had no idea who he was trying to hustle in the craps arena...haha , but I was in a fun mood and decided to play dumb. I told him that I was all ears. He started to tell me that he rolls the dice a certain way and that he cant lose. I said 'wow you must be really rich and I would love to watch you play'. He said his wife was on her way to the casino and she had his wallet so he needed me to put up $100. I then flipped the script on him and told him that I was intrigued with his proposal but he would need to give me $100 for me not to go to the pit boss and tell him that he is scamming and harassing customers. He looked dumbfounded and stuttered for a few seconds... then looked down at the ground then back up at me and said.... 'ahhh, you got me, ok man you got me, I was just playin though'. We laughed , he walked, I played....and won.

Congratulations on that 400 win of several minutes ago.. I've been watching for marks and thought I'd give you a try.

Yipes... what an obvious indication someone was up to no good.

Beautiful women rarely hang on a man's every word... indeed they usually don't even listen. They eye the man's wallet and make their decisions.

Ever think to hit the attendant button ... tell security. Might help to chase these parasites out, particularly if you can get them to look straight into the camera.

Quote: WatchMeWin

That is some funny s$%t... I then flipped the script on him and told him that I was intrigued with his proposal but he would need to give me $100 for me not to go to the pit boss and tell him that he is scamming and harassing customers.

Good one !

Wiz:

As a good "citizen", I wonder what they would have done if you just flipped on the "service" button to have someone from the casino come over, and then see what they would do when you introduced them to Ms. Scammer, IF in fact she stuck around long enough to find out !

Wiz -

You gotta work on that naive Steve Burns / Howdy Doody face of yours...

Quote: FleaStiff

Ever think to hit the attendant button ... tell security. Might help to chase these parasites out, particularly if you can get them to look straight into the camera.

Generally, no. If they are nice to me, like the scam #1 woman was, I don't have the heart to do more than say "no." The Ultimate X scam woman I might have but she vanished as soon as she knew the gig was up.

Quote: Wizard

Generally, no. If they are nice to me, like the scam #1 woman was, I don't have the heart to do more than say "no."

With all due respect, I would like you consider taking a wider view on this. Most IF NOT ALL casino customers are not as knowledgeable as you. If someone was scamming your poor old mom, would you want someone to try to assist her by simply pressing the "attendant" button ?

In this forum, you are "preachin' to the choir".

A little of topic but speaking of scams, I watched an episode of American Greed earlier about the Jamaican lottery scammers. Still can't believe in this day and age that people fall for this.

I have never seen a female Ultimate X "creator" in a casino. Shoumin Chai must've found a new hobby.

Quote: JohnnyQ

With all due respect, I would like you consider taking a wider view on this. Most IF NOT ALL casino customers are not as knowledgeable as you. If someone was scamming your poor old mom, would you want someone to try to assist her by simply pressing the "attendant" button ?

Point well taken. I'll take every situation on a case by case basis. However, I admit I have a soft spot for the ladies and am more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

A little of topic but speaking of scams, I watched an episode of American Greed earlier about the Jamaican lottery scammers. Still can't believe in this day and age that people fall for this.

It's just feeble mindedness with old age and could be us one day. Sat outside the casino today, old man with walker sits beside me. He says he can't remember where he parked his car, got there 20 minutes ago to watch the races, leaving already wtf. Didn't make sense, figured he didn't actually drive there. Senility is a bxxth. They're not stupid, just lost their marbles, believe anything like a 4 year old.

Quote: onenickelmiracle

It's just feeble mindedness with old age and could be us one day. Sat outside the casino today, old man with walker sits beside me. He says he can't remember where he parked his car, got there 20 minutes ago to watch the races, leaving already wtf. Didn't make sense, figured he didn't actually drive there. Senility is a bxxth. They're not stupid, just lost their marbles, believe anything like a 4 year old.

That's why you should never answer your phone unless you know who it is. I reject all calls and texts that I don't recognize. And if the call is persistent, I'll answer and tell them off before they can get a word in. Then hang up.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

That's why you should never answer your phone unless you know who it is. I reject all calls and texts that I don't recognize. And if the call is persistent, I'll answer and tell them off before they can get a word in. Then hang up.

They knew that 10 years ago. Today their defenseless, wouldn't remember not to answer the phone. That's how the people can keep making money, a new crop all the time. Then they just keep calling them until they're out of money.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

That's why you should never answer your phone unless you know who it is.

I generally answer calls, but sometimes the jerks get me PO'd. I received two very similar calls recently, both claiming to be from "Technical Services" about the computer "problems" I supposedly had been having.

I think it was the second call that went something along the line of his referring to my computer, my asking which computer he was referring to, his saying "your personal computer", my asking "which one", and his saying "your Windows computer."

To that, I just said, "No problem there. I don't have a Windows computer and never have had one. And I don't fall for such lazy scams from a stupid dip-sh*t like you." He was silent, and I hung up. My wife asked, "Another of the same?", and I just nodded.

Some dude offered me his cell phone as collateral for a $12 bus fare (he'd pay me back later). When I asked for his cell phone, he didn't want to give it up. No $12 for him. But that was quite a while ago.


Since then, I figured the best way to get rid of people is just say, "No thanks, I'm not interested." If they persist, something like, "Unlesss YOU'RE going to give ME money, I'm not interested." would probably work. Or just throw it back in their face -- respond with something like, "I'm actually in a similar dilemma, I lost all my cash and I'm stranded here and I need gas money // bus money // etc."

Quote: WatchMeWin

That is some funny s$%t... they had no idea who they were trying to hustle! lol

Ive only had one attempted hustle on me over the years, I guess this is because I like to put on a pissed off face and curse under my breath when I have a lot of money in casinos by myself. No one wants to f*$# with a pissed off crazy guy that looks like he just lost all of his money.

Getting back to the one hustle... Several years ago I was at Caesars in AC ready to play craps. I was watching the table before I jumped in. Some older guy with a ponytail (you may have seen him if you play there) came up to me and said he could make me money on the craps table. Obviously he had no idea who he was trying to hustle in the craps arena...haha , but I was in a fun mood and decided to play dumb. I told him that I was all ears. He started to tell me that he rolls the dice a certain way and that he cant lose. I said 'wow you must be really rich and I would love to watch you play'. He said his wife was on her way to the casino and she had his wallet so he needed me to put up $100. I then flipped the script on him and told him that I was intrigued with his proposal but he would need to give me $100 for me not to go to the pit boss and tell him that he is scamming and harassing customers. He looked dumbfounded and stuttered for a few seconds... then looked down at the ground then back up at me and said.... 'ahhh, you got me, ok man you got me, I was just playin though'. We laughed , he walked, I played....and won.

Cliff notes please.

Why is everyone tanking About cell calls?

Quote: Doc

I generally answer calls, but sometimes the jerks get me PO'd. I received two very similar calls recently, both claiming to be from "Technical Services" about the computer "problems" I supposedly had been having.

I think it was the second call that went something along the line of his referring to my computer, my asking which computer he was referring to, his saying "your personal computer", my asking "which one", and his saying "your Windows computer."

To that, I just said, "No problem there. I don't have a Windows computer and never have had one. And I don't fall for such lazy scams from a stupid dip-sh*t like you." He was silent, and I hung up. My wife asked, "Another of the same?", and I just nodded.

Just scam them back.

Give them some non-personal or specific information. Next, they'll probably ask for a credit card or for you to go to some website on the computer. If asked for a credit card, take as long as possible to find your credit card. "Okay, I finally found it. My damn dog, Charles (make sure you use a human-name for your dog or cat) was taking a nap on the davenport....no, no, it was the chesterfield, or maybe it was the devan, oh no, it was the chifferrobe! And he (born a female, had FTM surgery and now is male) was napping on top of my wallet. Oh, golly!! Okay so here's my MasterCard number it's....oh wait, this one's expired. *Hey, honey!!!! (Insert long Mexican name) Maria Gonzales Garcia Esteban Ricarda Ramires de Guadalupe y de La Rosa Garcia, you know where my new credit card is?" Continue as long as possible.

If they ask for you to go to a website, basically, do the same thing. Try to turn it on, doesn't work. Spend a few minutes (make sure to ask for technical support to turn on computer), then realized it's not even plugged in then spend a few minutes telling the scammer how clumsy or naive you are.....and boom! Instant fun.

Quote: Wizard

Last week I had an appointment at the Linq casino. I arrived early, as I almost always do, because I hate to be late. So, I played about 15 minutes of video poker. Yes, the pay tables are awful there, but I want to stay on good terms in Caesars properties and hopefully it will help to put in a little play at a high-edge video poker game. I've heard your offers are largely based on theoretical loss.

Scam #1 happened after about ten minutes of play. A woman who appeared to be about 35 approached and started to make small talk, She asked me how I was doing, congratulated me for a $400 win I hit about five minutes before she appeared, and seemed to cling on every word I said (something few women do). She complimented me on how smart I seemed and touched my shoulder lots of times. Then the sob story started. Her mother from Houston was just diagnosed with cancer and she came to visit her in Vegas before starting treatment. In showing her mother around the casinos her luck went bad and lost all her money. So, she asked me to put some money into the next machine so we could play together. Very much a version of the hustle I saw in Panama many times. I told her I had seen her act before and wasn't going to buy in. She asked a few more times and finally wandered off.

Scam #2 happened shortly after. An Asian woman asked me out of the blue why I was playing the game I was when there was a much better one next to me. She then rattled off a pay table that was too good to be true. So I got up and looked at the game. It was a Game King with lots of games. She pulled up an Ultimate X game and showed me the MULTIPLIER pay table. I explained to her that what she was referring to were not guaranteed wins but multipliers on the next hand. She clearly knew that I knew the trick and vanished without even a good-bye. In case you're wondering, I've heard of this scam before. If I had fallen for it she would have watched me play and tried to get me to leave with multipliers on the machine, and then vulture it.

I've seen plenty of scams in Vegas but never so close together. I hope those not familiar with both scams have learned something from this post.

Question. Is it immoral to scam someone who's trying to scam you?


I know the awnser. But I would like to hear some discussion about this.

I'll give you an example.
A person we all know ans like, and a guy who could afford one, once said they would trade me their Rolex and give me x amount. I don't remember the amount, but it was it the 4 figure range. Mine was a stainless steel model, theirs was a fancy submarine. The trade would have benefited me substantially because mine was also a fake but he assumed mine was real because he knew my financial situation. I was very certain his was fake(Mine was a really good fake) and that's why he would even offer such a good deal. I also didn't think he was the kind of person who would spend that much on a watch.

I don't think he would have went though with the deal either way, even if he knew mine was real. I'M certain he was just messing around. Perhaps he was just trying to prove a point about how good his fake was(it was fairly good but not as good as mine)

I would have NEVER let him go though with the deal either way.

But let's say some random hustler tied to make you that deal with you, and you knew he thought your Rolex was real. And you knew he was trying to scam you with a fake.

Would you make the deal knowing you were going to make over 1k from some scammer trying to scam you?

Quote: AxelWolf

I'll give you an example.
A person we all know ans like, and a guy who could afford one, once said they would trade me their Rolex and give me x amount. I don't remember the amount, but it was it the 4 figure range. Mine was a stainless steel model, theirs was a fancy submarine. The trade would have benefited me substantially because mine was also a fake but he assumed mine was real because he knew my financial situation. I was very certain his was fake(Mine was a really good fake) and that's why he would even offer such a good deal. I also didn't think he was the kind of person who would spend that much on a watch.

I don't think he would have went though with the deal either way, even if he knew mine was real. I'M certain he was just messing around. Perhaps he was just trying to prove a point about how good his fake was(it was fairly good but not as good as mine)

I would have NEVER let him go though with the deal either way.

But let's say some random hustler tied to make you that deal with you, and you knew he thought your Rolex was real. And you knew he was trying to scam you with a fake.

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Speaking theoretically, devils advocate, I say sure, why not, but not in practice. I assume knowing the scammer is a scammer is assumed, but most likely. They'll probably pull the cash off the table, try flipping it around wanting cash from you. I think the more I think about it, should say no just to get them away from your life, bad people. You have no defense for your fake anyways, would be morally obligated to return the property.

Quote: AxelWolf

Question. Is it immoral to scam someone who's trying to scam you?


I know the awnser. But I would like to hear some discussion about this.

I'll give you an example.
A person we all know ans like, and a guy who could afford one, once said they would trade me their Rolex and give me x amount. I don't remember the amount, but it was it the 4 figure range. Mine was a stainless steel model, theirs was a fancy submarine. The trade would have benefited me substantially because mine was also a fake but he assumed mine was real because he knew my financial situation. I was very certain his was fake(Mine was a really good fake) and that's why he would even offer such a good deal. I also didn't think he was the kind of person who would spend that much on a watch.

I don't think he would have went though with the deal either way, even if he knew mine was real. I'M certain he was just messing around. Perhaps he was just trying to prove a point about how good his fake was(it was fairly good but not as good as mine)

I would have NEVER let him go though with the deal either way.

But let's say some random hustler tied to make you that deal with you, and you knew he thought your Rolex was real. And you knew he was trying to scam you with a fake.

Would you make the deal knowing you were going to make over 1k from some scammer trying to scam you?

I remember you telling me this story. I didn't think it was a true story though. :)



For RogerKint:

TLDR version: Axel had a fake and was with someone whom he knows/knew. That guy wanted to give Axel $1k cash plus his own watch to trade with Axel's watch. The guy tried to scam Axel, because the guy's watch was fake, but he didn't know or may not have known Axel's was fake. Then Axel, supposedly turned down the offer. Hehehehee

Axel's story was pretty damn funny the first time I heard it, especially since he mentioned who it was.

Anyway everytime I gamble on the strip nobody talks to me, let alone try to scam me. I must be a ton of standard deviations to the left or something. I've had a guy saying to take down my craps bets after 4 rolls or something stupid like that, but he didn't try to hustle money. He was just a weirdo.

I do get propositioned on "dates" with hookers, 100% of these encounters happened at Caeser's Palace. I usually tell them I have no money. One lady asked me if I was winning when I was smoking on a machine. I said I don't gamble, it's bad for ya. She asked me what I was doing. I said I was smoking at this machine. She said you're boring, and left.

Those girls were not trying to scam the Wizard, they were hitting on him.
He's A chick magnet he just doesn't know it.

Quote: Wizard

and am more inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt.

If you have any doubt then there is no doubt.

Ronin. When the buyers are about to enter the shooting gallery to complete an arms deal.

Quote: Doc

I generally answer calls, but sometimes the jerks get me PO'd. I received two very similar calls recently, both claiming to be from "Technical Services" about the computer "problems" I supposedly had been having.

I think it was the second call that went something along the line of his referring to my computer, my asking which computer he was referring to, his saying "your personal computer", my asking "which one", and his saying "your Windows computer."

Did they mention the "Windows ID number," which is really just a part number of some sort (and they remind you, "Well, a lot of computers built by the same company will use the same version of Windows, so they'll have the same ID number"?

For those of you not familiar with this scam:
1. Caller claims to work for Microsoft or "the Windows Technical Department" and gets you to look at some system window that shows processes that are not running (because they aren't supposed to be running, but the scammer makes it sound like this is a problem with your computer)
2. Caller gets you to run software that lets them operate your computer remotely.
3. Caller sets your computer's "syskey password" which now locks you out
4. Caller claims that he can fix your computer - just give him $500 or so worth of Amazon gift card numbers or bank debit cards.
An alternative: the caller sends you to a website where you download a virus that encrypts your hard drive, then offers to fix it, again for $500 or so.

You should check out YouTube - there are any number of people who turned the tables on these scammers, including at least one who got the caller to syskey his own computer.

There's another popular phone scam: somebody claiming to be from the IRS or the "Department of Legal Affairs" calls you and leaves a voice message saying that you are in some sort of legal trouble and need to call them back; invariably, you are asked either to give your bank account information or are offered the opportunity to pay off your "back taxes" in, you guessed it, bank debit cards.

Scam the scammer? Why not?

That's the main plot of the very funny movie Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

... Still can't believe in this day and age that people fall for this.

It's what keeps that Nigerian Princess in business.

Quote: DJTeddyBear

Scam the scammer? Why not?
That's the main plot of the very funny movie Dirty Rotten Scoundrels.
It's what keeps that Nigerian Princess in business.

For hours of reading fun, search for the term "419eater"

Odd, I don't think anyone has ever tried to scam me like the 2 experiences Mike had. Maybe because I look younger and they prey on older people? Did I accidentally just call Mike old?!?! =P

Anyways, any of these ever happened to me I would WITHOUT A DOUBT:
A) Completely waste the scammers time.
B) Attempt to scam the scammer.

I have no pity for these people who try to take advantage of confused/overly trusting people. My grandma was scammed a few years back. Someone called her from Canada claiming to be my younger brother. He said they were fishing in Canada and didn't have a fishing licence and now they have to pay a huge fee or stay locked up and he didn't want my parents to find out so he was asking my grandma to wire money to him in canada. She said it sounded like him, so she did wire like $450 to him =/.

These people are ruthless, and should be dealt with similarly. I honestly don't know exactly what I'd do, but if I came across someone scamming my parents (I'm much more protective of my family than myself) I might even offer to give them money in the bathroom, and then have an MMA Exhibition with them... What are they going to do, report me to the cops after they tried to rob my family?

Quote: djatc

I do get propositioned on "dates" with hookers, 100% of these encounters happened at Caeser's Palace. I usually tell them I have no money. One lady asked me if I was winning when I was smoking on a machine. I said I don't gamble, it's bad for ya. She asked me what I was doing. I said I was smoking at this machine. She said you're boring, and left.

I also DO get propositioned a lot. I think Prostitutes see us as:

A) Prostitutes think we can afford them
B) We don't look very flattering; therefore we look like Johns who would pay
C) All of the above

When I get approached with the usual question "Hey, do you want a date?"

I just yell in excitement "IS IT FREE?!" 9 out of 10 times, they roll their eyes and walk away in disgust.

Quote: djatc

Axel's story was pretty damn funny the first time I heard it, especially since he mentioned who it was.

Anyway everytime I gamble on the strip nobody talks to me, let alone try to scam me. I must be a ton of standard deviations to the left or something. I've had a guy saying to take down my craps bets after 4 rolls or something stupid like that, but he didn't try to hustle money. He was just a weirdo.

I do get propositioned on "dates" with hookers, 100% of these encounters happened at Caeser's Palace. I usually tell them I have no money. One lady asked me if I was winning when I was smoking on a machine. I said I don't gamble, it's bad for ya. She asked me what I was doing. I said I was smoking at this machine. She said you're boring, and left.

You sure got a way with the ladies, I'll tell ye hwat.

Remember our good friend we met at the bar? Loud mouth chick who could knock down more drinks than Axel & Romes combined?

Quote: RS

You sure got a way with the ladies, I'll tell ye hwat.

Remember our good friend we met at the bar? Loud mouth chick who could knock down more drinks than Axel & Romes combined?

You watch how you talk about my future wife RS... and if some chick could out drink the two of us, I'd lose a lot of money in a bet. I don't care if you're an alcoholic used to drinking all day every day, the amount of speed with which we could force them to drink would do it. I'll do 6 shots this hour, so will Axel, but this person has to do 12 shots in 1 hour... as a start to the competition.

I think RS is trying to SCAM me in to a bet where he replaces the woman's shots of vodka with water. Hint RS: I'm hip to that trick.

I knew a girl who could drink me under the table - a Serbian - could quaff martini after martini and just seemed a little buzzed

Quote: Wizard

Point well taken. I'll take every situation on a case by case basis.

Did we learn nothing from Peter Parker, Uncle Ben, and Aunt May ?

Quote: JohnnyQ

Did we learn nothing from Peter Parker, Uncle Ben, and Aunt May ?

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I think there is a difference between chit chat, even from a hooker, and a scam. A scam is out and out deception. A hooker is just trying to make small talk and blend in a bit before she dangles some bait.

Quote: FleaStiff

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See original post I quoted.

The problems I see with confronting a scammer and turning them into casino security:

1. It takes time.
2. It involves unpleasantness (a stress-riser!)
3. You create some level of jeopardy that the scammer may try to retaliate against you in some way after the confrontation with security.
4. What can security do anyway? Nothing is provable and nothing really happened.
5. The casino isn't going to reward you, are they? I wonder if they might be more likely to regard you as a trouble-maker, as someone who was involved in an 'incident.'

Quote: gordonm888

3. You create some level of jeopardy that the scammer may try to retaliate against you in some way after the confrontation with security.

Good point, fair enough. Unfortunately, that is not outside the realm of possibility if you are dealing with a person of that nature.

So, yeah, case by case basis. If someone is bothering you, I think it makes sense to call security. If you say NOT INTERESTED, and they move along, I guess problem solved or possibly problem passed along to someone else.

Quote: Wizard

I've seen plenty of scams in Vegas but never so close together. I hope those not familiar with both scams have learned something from this post.

My favorite was an Asian woman that was playing blackjack who ran out of money. She wanted to double her bet and asked me to give her the money and she would give it back after she won. I said no. She asked another person who said no. She asked yet another person who annoyingly threw the money over to her.

She lost.

She looked over at him and said, sorry no more money.... and left the table.

I got one of these scam calls today. The number was 312-809-5189.

Quote: Ibeatyouraces

I got one of these scam calls today. The number was 312-809-5189.

Sad thing is that it is probably someone's number who was spoofed. Happens all the time.

Quote: Boz

Sad thing is that is probably someone's number who was spoofed. Happens all the time.

Do a number search on whitepages.com and it'll tell you if it's a scam number.

You do know scammers can make the id any number they want ?

You can spend infinitely many hours entertaining yourself by reading these "scam the scammer" successes:

http://www.419eater.com/html/letters.htm

"Scamming the scammers" is a profession for some.

Quote: AxelWolf

A person we all know ans like, and a guy who could afford one, once said they would trade me their Rolex and give me x amount. I don't remember the amount, but it was it the 4 figure range. Mine was a stainless steel model, theirs was a fancy submarine. The trade would have benefited me substantially because mine was also a fake but he assumed mine was real because he knew my financial situation.

Back when I wore a fake Rolex...

I was having a bad run at a Blackjack table, and a guy offered to loan me some money for my Rolex.
Briefly I thought about borrowing the money...and getting a free roll from a $300-500 fake. Naaahhhhh....

P.S. The high-quality fake was a stainless blue Submariner (Rolex doesn't make a real stainless in blue, which is what I found when I tried to buy a real one, and found that the blue bezel was only offered with the more expensive gold band.)

Strangely, I had a NYC watch store ask me if I wanted to sell the fake Rolex also. They should have known better.

Quote: Wizard

Scam #2 happened shortly after. An Asian female, around 40 years old, asked me out of the blue why I was playing the game I was when there was a much better one next to me. She then rattled off a pay table that was too good to be true. So I got up and looked at the game. It was a Game King with lots of games. She pulled up an Ultimate X game and showed me the MULTIPLIER pay table.

I love the people who play UX leaving multipliers on all the games...and then play them off in front of the scammer. :-)

Probably not smart to call for security when the person is there with you.....better to wait till they leave then call security and say that dude was asking for money or whatever it was.

Plenty of times I've been playing, someone sat down next to me, played a few hands then left. Then a security guard would approach me and ask if that person was bothering me or asking for money. Once a person did ask for money, he left, security asked me, I said yes he asking for money.....not sure what happened after that, he was probably tracked down and thrown out or something idk.


But the good part is, if they do get kicked out, they don't know it was you who ratted them out. Probably just think surveillance followed them and they called down to security.

This many not be a direct scam, but certainly an indirect one... So, My first trip to Vegas circa 1996.. I can remember it like yesterday. I was living in LA at the time and traveled to sin city with a group of friends for NATPE convention. All we had to worry about back then was getting drunk and picking up hot chicks. Bright lights, sounds of ringing slot machines, the smell of money in the air and everyone looking to have a good time.

The fist day I found myself hopping through a couple of casinos. I walked into the Tropicana as saw an unbelievably hot Asian cocktail waitress (she may even still be there today). I mean this chick was smoking hot! Amazing legs with perfect curves and tone. Perfect cleavage. Beautiful smile with big white teeth. Smooth tan skin. dark shiny long hair. I was a young kid in love with big dreams and lots of testosterone.

I made my move and walked up to her to ask her for a drink. She gave me that look... you know the look like Im going to tease you until you give me a big tip. So, when she came back with my drink I tipped her pretty big.. 5 bucks..haha well that was big for me at the time. I started some small talk and finally asked her if she wanted to have a drink after work. She didnt hesitate at all and said YES! I was really in love with Vegas now... man this was too easy! She told me to come back when she got off at 8pm and meet her at the bar. I let her know I would be there and we would have a great night.

I go back to my hotel. Play some craps. Grab a bite and drinks with my friends.... and b line it to the Trop at 8pm. I show up at the bar a few minutes before 8pm and see her walk by. She comes up to me and shakes my hand and a kiss on the cheek. Suddenly my energy went from pure excitement to utter caution and disbelief as her hand felt quite large. I keep telling myself... no way, No Flippin Way is that a dude! Now everything is in slow motion to me. I watch her walk by and she winks at me. I start looking at her jaw line, and her feet, and her hands... everything is now fuzzy and moving very slowly like I had been drugged. She says ' I will be done in a minute, wait for me'. Now Im convinced that Im fresh meat for this frickin hot tai guy! I turn to the bartender and ask him if one of these waitresses used to be a man. He looked at me and shook his head yes. I asked him if it is the one Im speaking to. He looked at me , raised his eyebrows , put on a slight grin/frown mix expression.. and shook his yes. I tipped him 10 bucks and said thank you very much , then b lined for the exit.

I consider that biatch a scammer in disguise.. My first trip to Vegas almost ended up a disaster. Whats even funnier is that the following year I was back in Vegas with buddies. We were at the hard rock late night. I saw the trop tai guy walking toward us from a distance. I told my buddy that this chick coming toward us is super hot and easy to get with. I told him that I had the best bj of my life from her and that he should go try to hook up with her. He said he didnt believe me. I told him her name and that she worked at the Trop. So he calls her over and asks her name and if she worked at the Trop. She said yes. Immediately he turns his back toward us and proceeds to dominate conversation with her and put his charm on her one on one. I tell my other buddy what was going on and we start laughing hysterically. Finally, I try to get my friends attention... but he wont stop talking to tai guy. He turns around and yells at me , telling me to stop cockblocking him....lmao Then I grabbed him and told him I could let him do it... and let him in on the info of the tai guy. He looked at me, then back at her/him, then back at me... and told me to go f myself. I never found out the truth of what happened to him the rest of the night.

Well, that is not really a 'casino' scam but it can be difficult in any situation involving alcohol and a generalized festive situation conducive to "pick ups". There was even an off strip casino that was in a neighborhood where 'tranny' sure did not refer to automotive transmission repair shops.

The thing to remember is that those waitresses and dealers used to make a fortune and all the young hotshots from Los Angeles didn't make in a week what they made in one night.

It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference a male and female bar "girl." Sometimes I don't know whether to be attracted to one or not.

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It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference a male and female bar "girl." Sometimes I don't know whether to be attracted to one or not.

I dont think I have ever seen a shemale(or whatever you want to call them) and felt they were attractive. Most likely they have some male like features that I wouldn't be attracted to.
I'm sure someone can pull up some extreme examples online where its fairly hard to tell they are not female, but the odds of seeing someone like that out and about would probably be very rare.