The Table Games Conference is back
Conference Rates:
By Nov 16 After Nov 16
Full Conference $1,099 $1,199
Full Conference Group Rate 5 or More $999ea $999ea
Exhibit Booths
The Table Games Conference features an active exhibit hall with over 35 exhibit booths. Situated next to the main conference room, exhibitors get plenty of interaction with attendees during receptions, scheduled networking breaks and even throughout the entire conference.
There are always a variety of sponsorship opportunities available to " meet your needs and to fit your budget."
Guess I will have to find out the cost to exhibit my game. But my budget rarely reaches 3 figures, let alone 4. SIGH
Of course after May 2nd, I might just have to fold my tent and slink away in shame and despair.
Stop the erosion of table games revenue; create a pit area that is thrilling to younger players, that is friendly enough to tease your slot players, and that will invigorate your current players.
Yeah, but it's cheaper than G2E. Still WAY out of my range. Hell, even ATTENTING is out of my range.Quote: ParadigmI believe the cost of exhibiting at the last Ravings Table Game Conference was in the $3,000 to $4,000 range, so it ain't cheap!
Of course, I'm curious to know what UCivan's comment means, and if it applies to me as well:
Quote: UCivanYou're on SM's show list. You're are all set before December.
Problem is they are from all over the place and unless you are licensed or going to be licensed in their jurisdiction, you aren't even really an option for a lot of the attendees. As a result not sure Ravings or G2E is the right place for independents.
That is why the SMI event is so good for those exhibiting. You are likely getting in front of Nevada DTG's (i.e one market albeit an expensive one to get in to) and getting in front of a distributor to boot. And hopefully you are going to see some fairly detailed feedback comments from the group (I hope it will be more than just a voting score as that isn't going to give you a why if your score is less than desired).
As an independent developer, I don't think you can't take the shot gun approach to marketing the game and just exhibit at a show. If you want to go it alone and try and get a trial of the game, you have to target one or two jurisdictions that are easy to get into from a logistics standpoint and hit the pavement with a "comfortable pair of shoes" (as Roger S. was quoted to say in Eliot Jacobson's book).
Otherwise, find a distributor connection and see what you can carve out on that route. JMHO for whatever that is worth.
The cost to exhibit is $3,500 and includes:
10x10 booth
1/4 page ad in Casino Journal's November issue
Designation as a sponsor on all Marketing materials
Your logo on website with link
two full conference passes
six VIP reception invitations
Guaranteed new game trial AWARDED TO THE BEST "NEW TABLE GAME" at Black Oak Casino and Agua Caliente Casino
It is a great opportunity to get your game in front of Table Game Professionals who come to attend the sessions and meet you and play these innovative games.
I got a free pass into SMI focus group. Proving once again that the good Lord looks out for fools .
Got chewed out by the wife for talking to myself in church. Told her I was just praying out loud, but she knows me too well for that to fly.
Probably was talking to myself about Eliots " Elements of a sucessful carnival game " Parts 1 and 2. I think I have not violated any, but now planning my presentation, that is something else. Dan Lubin has given me some generous advice. And I have watched
" A pitch for the Angels" twice more. Ed Wynn Senior in a Twilight Zone classic. My one and probably only real chance to make
a pitch for the grandkids.
I will report back here in detail on the Focus group as as many of the games as I possibly can. remember.
For what it is worth, I think Raving puts on a good show (I attended the last one in August of 2010). SMI, Galaxy, Gaming Network, Dan/DEQ w EZPGP was there....and there were probably 6-8 other games on exhibit from independent developers. Eliot was on a panel and there were some good speakers.
Bottom line is that Raving does things well and I am a big fan of theirs. Just not sure it is a good fit for me from an exhibitor standpoint. I may attend in December, but it depends on results of my own marketing efforts between now and then.
allowed to buy anything at estate sales. My wife is afraid the original owner might comes in the dark of night to repossess what I
bought.
Buzz - you are an eagle eye! Yes, you are correct - we will have it changed on the sponsorship sheet. This is correct: The winner of the Best New Table Game Competition will receive floor space at Black Oak Casino, Hard Rock Hotel and Casino—Biloxi and Muckleshoot Indian Casino and Bingo. And I am told that there will be more as well.
Quote: buzzpaffUPDATE :
Buzz - you are an eagle eye! Yes, you are correct - we will have it changed on the sponsorship sheet. This is correct: The winner of the Best New Table Game Competition will receive floor space at Black Oak Casino, Hard Rock Hotel and Casino—Biloxi and Muckleshoot Indian Casino and Bingo. And I am told that there will be more as well.
FYI, selling to the Muckleshoot will require a WSGC (Washington State) gaming license. Many states do not require table games vendors to be licensed (e.g. Nevada, Mississippi), but Washington does.
Is "the Best New Table Game Competition" the SM Focus Group event or the Raving's Conference, which one?Quote: buzzpaffUPDATE :
Buzz - you are an eagle eye! Yes, you are correct - we will have it changed on the sponsorship sheet. This is correct: The winner of the Best New Table Game Competition will receive floor space at Black Oak Casino, Hard Rock Hotel and Casino—Biloxi and Muckleshoot Indian Casino and Bingo. And I am told that there will be more as well.
Quote: MathExtremistFYI, selling to the Muckleshoot will require a WSGC (Washington State) gaming license. Many states do not require table games vendors to be licensed (e.g. Nevada, Mississippi), but Washington does.
As far as I know, any vendor conducting business in Nevada needed to be licensed regardless of the product/service being provided. Is this the case?
As I understand it, in all states except Washington, the "vendor" is the person / company selling something to the casino. I.E. Whoever the casino's check gets made out to. That person or company needs to be licensed.Quote: mrsuit31As far as I know, any vendor conducting business in Nevada needed to be licensed regardless of the product/service being provided. Is this the case?
A game inventor who uses a gaming distributor, is not the casino's vendor.
Washington wants the vendor, as well as the vendor's vendor (and maybe each level up as well). That's why the game inventor (I.E. The person who holds the patent) to be licensed.
This is one of the advantages of using a distributor. Until you get interest in putting it in Washington, you don't have to deal with that red tape.
Quote: DJTeddyBearAs I understand it, in all states except Washington, the "vendor" is the person / company selling something to the casino. I.E. Whoever the casino's check gets made out to. That person or company needs to be licensed.
A game inventor who uses a gaming distributor, is not the casino's vendor.
Washington wants the vendor, as well as the vendor's vendor (and maybe each level up as well). That's why the game inventor (I.E. The person who holds the patent) to be licensed.
This is one of the advantages of using a distributor. Until you get interest in putting it in Washington, you don't have to deal with that red tape.
I just got off of the phone with one of the approval reps at the ngcb. She verified what Mathex had stated. She said that as a "vendor" who does not make any money directly from gaming revenue you indeed DO NOT need to be licensed through the state. You need to pay to get the game approved $5000 maybe more, but do not need anything as far as a vendor license...(which i originally had though was the case.)
I have a games approved in the State of Washington, but I can not sell it because I am not a licensed vendor; also, the game is not shown on the approved List for the same reason. eTable Games I went through the approval process thinking an approval could get some interests from a distributor. Unfortunately, a distributor is typically more interested in promoting his own games. Getting an approval in Washington used to cost $1000.Quote: mrsuit31I just got off of the phone with one of the approval reps at the ngcb. She verified what Mathex had stated. She said that as a "vendor" who does not make any money directly from gaming revenue you indeed DO NOT need to be licensed through the state. You need to pay to get the game approved $5000 maybe more, but do not need anything as far as a vendor license...(which i originally had though was the case.)
Quote: etablegamesI have a games approved in the State of Washington, but I can not sell it because I am not a licensed vendor; also, the game is not shown on the approved List for the same reason. eTable Games I went through the approval process thinking an approval could get some interests from a distributor. Unfortunately, a distributor is typically more interested in promoting his own games. Getting an approval in Washington used to cost $1000.
I understand this about washington and thought that was the case everywhere. I am licensed through a tribe in southern california and there you need to be licensed and have the game approved as well. But it seems that in nevada all you need is to have the game approved (needing a letter of intent to do so) then you can conduct business as you please without needing to be involved with the the state whatsoever. This was news to me...
So, if you sold your game outright then you would not need to be approved in Washington.
Actually I'm just finishing off my Washington Vendor forms and they are the most demanding in my opinion. Being in the UK, the fingerprints card was the most difficult thing to complete.
Quote: mrsuit31... But it seems that in nevada all you need is to have the game approved (needing a letter of intent to do so) then you can conduct business as you please without needing to be involved with the the state whatsoever. This was news to me...
This is the case. Although the Nevada approval for the game is thorough and the field trial adds to the difficulty, the conducting of business thereafter is quite straightforward.
Quote: SwitchYes, Washington and, until recently, New Jersey, required that anyone who will benefit from the lease fee, whether directly or indirectly, has to be licensed.
Did atlantic city just change there rules? Do they now mimic vegas where all that would be needed is to get the game approved and your all set...?
Quote: mrsuit31Did atlantic city just change there rules? Do they now mimic vegas where all that would be needed is to get the game approved and your all set...?
Yes, you no longer need to be a registered vendor if you license your game to another distributor in New Jersey. I'm sure that you would still need a Vendor License if you were to distribute the game yourself.
The cost of the process was less than $1000 as I recall and then you pay an annual fee of $659 to maintain your license.
Lots of commercial card rooms in WA that play most games on BJ sized tables, but cards only.....no roulette/craps/slots in these card rooms. There are about 20 tribal casino's and they do offer essentially Las Vegas equivalent table game areas with craps & roulette.
WA does have some non Nevada like rules for Slots, I believe they are only allowed Video Lottery Terminals (VLT's). Not my area of expertise, but there have been some threads discussing the differences between LVT's and "true slots".
