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Zcore13
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Bowler377
September 25th, 2021 at 5:24:18 PM permalink
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What reasons would a casino have to exclude poker game patrons who discreetly rat out the dealer for breaking the casino's own rules aka soliciting a tip?

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    I didn't say you would get banned. Players will dislike you, dealers will dislike you, floors will dislike you. That will end up hurting you in the long run.

    And if you can't overcome $5 -$10 an hour (depending on the stakes) in tips, you're not a good professional player anyway.


    ZCore13
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    Bowler377
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    September 25th, 2021 at 5:47:34 PM permalink
    Sounds like there is a tradeoff for everything.
    Deucekies
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    September 25th, 2021 at 6:04:22 PM permalink
    Quote: Zcore13


    I didn't say you would get banned. Players will dislike you, dealers will dislike you, floors will dislike you. That will end up hurting you in the long run.



    Are you saying a dealer should be allowed to solicit tips without repercussion?

    It's possible that by reporting that dealer to the supervisor, you're doing the dealer a favor. The supervisor may write the dealer up or suspend them, whereas if any undercover gaming agent hears what the dealer is saying, the dealer's license may be pulled without any warnings at all.
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    Zcore13
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    September 25th, 2021 at 6:58:17 PM permalink
    Quote: Deucekies

    Are you saying a dealer should be allowed to solicit tips without repercussion?

    It's possible that by reporting that dealer to the supervisor, you're doing the dealer a favor. The supervisor may write the dealer up or suspend them, whereas if any undercover gaming agent hears what the dealer is saying, the dealer's license may be pulled without any warnings at all.

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    Unless they are harassing you with multiple comments or exciting players, you just ignore it. But if you report every dealer that says anything, like it seems like he was saying, you're going to make things more difficult than a $1 tip every 10 minutes is worth. If the dealer is harassing you, you're better off leaving the table and talking to a supervisor so other players aren't involved and don't have an opportunity to enhance the story to fit their narrative. Calling the floor over to every table this happens at is a recipe for disaster.


    ZCore13
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    AxelWolf
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    September 25th, 2021 at 8:10:34 PM permalink
    Quote: Zcore13

    Quote: Bowler377

    What reasons would a casino have to exclude poker game patrons who discreetly rat out the dealer for breaking the casino's own rules aka soliciting a tip?

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    I didn't say you would get banned. Players will dislike you, dealers will dislike you, floors will dislike you. That will end up hurting you in the long run.

    And if you can't overcome $5 -$10 an hour (depending on the stakes) in tips, you're not a good professional player anyway.


    ZCore13
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    I can see where this might not be good for him if there ever has to be a ruling made regarding a pot.

    I dont know that it will hurt his wallet in the long run, for one, he is saving money by not tipping that will should more than makeup for any possible bad ruling he may encounter. If the players don't like him that can be beneficial as well, if it causes people to make bad calls while trying to bust him, or if they avoid playing hands that he is in and they fold things they should have played. I used to know some old guys who played poker daily at the same few locations who never tipped it seemed as if they were liked by the staff and players all the same. I will say that those guys were super rocks that usually only entered posts with AK, AA KK so they rarely won any posts.
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    Wellbush
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    September 25th, 2021 at 9:18:01 PM permalink
    In Australia it's not permitted to tip. It's seen as a potential bribe for a dealer! Tipping is also not customary for most things here. As our society mimics the British in a lot of ways, because we were colonised by them, Britain may also not allow tipping? British posters may know?
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