richodude
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December 22nd, 2022 at 8:48:31 PM permalink
I modified some paytables on common table games to have almost no house edge for playing at home where you might want equal opportunities. I personally have a clay set of poker chips and my friend and I play at 1/10 value (red chip = 50c instead of $5) or sometimes for fun, but the point is having something cheaper than a casino and neither of us having a long-term advantage.

Anyways, I was able to calculate this by using the math supplied by wizard of odds and other people way smarter than me. I tried to keep all the numbers "even" so that you aren't payed 364 to 1 on a royal flush. House edge of course based on perfect strategy. Expect my numbers to be off slightly (by 0.05% or less?) just because of my rounding and significant figures. Heres what I came up with:

Blackjack:


(0.26%) 6 decks with late surrender and all the other good rules. (+0.01%) for 1 deck H17 nLS

___Trilux/(21 + 3) side bet: (+0.01%) you need to make a 3 card poker hand with your 2 + the dealers upcard
Flush - 5 to 1
Straight - 10 to 1
3oaK - 30 to 1
SF - 50 to 1
RF - 250 to 1
3 aces of spades* - 1000 to 1
*I made this up to add 0.40% to the game




Ultimate Texas Holdem:

Divide by 4 for the Element of Risk
___Blind: (0.12%)
Straight* - 1 to 1
Flush* - 2 to 1
Full house* - 3 to 1
Quads* - 10 to 1
SF* - 50 to 1
RF* - 750 to 1
*Must beat the dealer

___ Trips: (+0.01%)
Trips: 3 to 1
Straight: 4 to 1
Flush: 7 to 1
Full House: 10 to 1
Quads: 20 to 1
SF: 40 to 1
RF: 50 to 1

___Ultimate Pairs: (+0.08%) side bet based on your 2 hole cards only
Pair - 5 to 1
Ace + Face - 10 to 1
Ace + Face Suited - 20 to 1
Pocket Aces - 60 to 1
Johnny Deuce Suited with the Dealer (J2)* - 750 to 1
*Made this up again. You and the dealer must have Jack 2 suited. Removing it takes away about half a percent




Mississippi Stud:

This game is very hard to play perfectly so I would consider 50 to 1 for quads or even making a pair of 5s a push. I have no idea what the math is for that push but I do know that modifying the pay on trips or worse changes the payback way too much
___Main Game: (0.08%)
Pair 6s - 10s - Push
Jacks or Better - 1 to 1
Two Pair - 2 to 1
3oaK - 3 to 1
Straight - 6 to 1
Flush - 8 to 1
Full House - 10 to 1
4oaK - 40 to 1
SF - 150 to 1
RF - 1000 to 1

___3 Card Bonus: (+0.05%) side bet based on the 3 community cards only
Pair - 1 to 1
Flush - 3 to 1
Straight - 8 to 1
3oaK - 25 to 1
SF - 40 to 1
RF - 150 to 1




3 Card Poker:

___Ante Bonus: (0.03%) I find it crazy that simply changing the typical 1-4-5 paytable to 2-4-5 brings the house edge to only 0.12%
Straight: 2 to 1
3oaK: 4 to 1
SF: 5 to 1
RF: 10 to 1

___Pairs Plus: (0.13%) since you can play this bet independently, I took 10 off the RF to give the house the edge again.
Pair - 1 to 1
Flush - 3 to 1
Straight - 8 to 1
3oaK - 25 to 1
SF - 40 to 1
RF - 140 to 1



These are the common games I know of and the side bets that my local casino offers. Again, none of this would be possible without the math from wizard of odds. I feel its only right that I share this with you guys since I don't see much talk about no house edge games on the internet
Mental
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December 23rd, 2022 at 4:57:27 AM permalink
It would be simpler to just have the person who is the house rotate between the players. In BJ, the dealer rotates after every dealer BJ, etc.
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richodude
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December 23rd, 2022 at 7:37:31 PM permalink
That’s a solid option too but I like dealing more and my friend likes playing more. Especially if you are playing by yourself a little extra payback is nice. If I did switch I rather it be on a per time basis
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December 23rd, 2022 at 9:27:25 PM permalink
Betting nfl road dogs is +ev

DP with 345 odds is 0.27%.
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December 24th, 2022 at 1:50:35 PM permalink
Quote: richodude

… but I like dealing more and my friend likes playing more.
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Dealing / playing …

Is it the position or the specific action that you/your friend prefer?

IE. Maybe you should always deal, but use a dealer button to determine who plays as the house.
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