onenickelmiracle
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May 1st, 2021 at 10:41:15 PM permalink
Quote: daveyandersen1

yea well read his book its in there too in fact its his recommended way to play take it or leave it

I really just found his lingo very amusing, it wasn't meant to be offensive to you. I also think there is nothing wrong with what you said about craps, as long as what you thought you learned wasn't a secret to winning. Playing craps, things can get out of control really fast, and you do have to know the game to make your bets and not be ripped off or be subject to breakage by betting the wrong amount ratios. I don't fault discipline not letting yourself lose your cool and it's ok to leave a game of gambling any time you want. Things get out of control for anyone making excuses and I have to remind myself to not confuse them into gambling more than they really want and losing more than they really want to lose. I only bet the outside, because that's all I've bothered to ever learn and also the lowest edge bets, so why bother learning anything else and I leave when I feel like I don't want to risk anything more and don't feel like standing at a table any longer. I never read his books, but it seems like his advice was better than nothing and probably still is. Regular people don't need to have expertise in gambling, because it's not worth their time learning, and are probably better off being scared a little, and keeping a budget they are emotionally and practically comfortable with.
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MrV
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May 1st, 2021 at 11:17:20 PM permalink
Let's not forget the "little three:" theory, logic and trends.
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FatGeezus
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May 2nd, 2021 at 8:10:46 AM permalink
When gambling was first legalized in NJ (1978?) John Patrick ran seminars in NJ to teach you about gambling. He taught you the basics of Craps, Roulette, Black Jack etc.

I attended one of those seminars. It was taught at the local High School as one of its night school classes. It was so popular that the classes filled up quickly and they kept on adding more classes to fill up requests.

One of the things he stressed was that gambling was not fun. Gambling was about winning money. He was not there to teach you how to have fun. He was there to teach you about gambling. He said that if you want to have fun, GO OUT ON THE BOARDWALK AND RIDE THE ROLLER COASTER.
Goethe
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May 2nd, 2021 at 12:04:23 PM permalink
I don't know very much about the intricacies of craps as it's not something that is widely available in UK casinos. On the odd occasions when you do run into a dice tub on the gaming floor they're usually missing the pass line and it's prop bets only.

Overall I think it's fair to say that much of Mr P's advice when it comes down to the finer points of casino table games, as he recorded it in his many titles, has to be taken with a pinch of salt. However, there were a few nuggets of common sense to be found, and for anyone interested my review of his book "John Patrick's Slots" can be found here: http://www.uk-21.org/JohnPatricksSlots.shtml

I wish him all the best for the remainder of his retirement in Florida.
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MrV
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May 2nd, 2021 at 12:48:48 PM permalink
Well, he got at least one thing right in his books: Dolly Parton does / did indeed have a nice set of jugs.

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MoneyK1ng
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May 2nd, 2021 at 3:46:05 PM permalink
I distinctly remember one of his videos advising not to split 8s against a dealer 10 because then you'll just lose twice.
daveyandersen1
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May 2nd, 2021 at 5:15:29 PM permalink
Quote: FatGeezus

When gambling was first legalized in NJ (1978?) John Patrick ran seminars in NJ to teach you about gambling. He taught you the basics of Craps, Roulette, Black Jack etc.

I attended one of those seminars. It was taught at the local High School as one of its night school classes. It was so popular that the classes filled up quickly and they kept on adding more classes to fill up requests.

One of the things he stressed was that gambling was not fun. Gambling was about winning money. He was not there to teach you how to have fun. He was there to teach you about gambling. He said that if you want to have fun, GO OUT ON THE BOARDWALK AND RIDE THE ROLLER COASTER.

I did not know about his classes in schools..That tells me he was very serious about not letting people lose there money to the casinos.. that was in the late 80s early 90s when folks didn't have alot of ways to learn about gambling..What I learned from his books and videos was that gambling is really NO JOKE..I think that attitude has changed now and people are just looking for a good time ya know that " go big or go home"vibe..
EvenBob
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May 2nd, 2021 at 5:38:09 PM permalink
JP stopped by Gamblers Glen about 15 years ago and I tried to challenge him to a roulette contest and he wouldn't go for it. Any GG people here remember that?
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