smoothgrh
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January 28th, 2020 at 10:37:55 AM permalink
Quote: TDVegas


If you are that far down (and obviously things haven't been going well) where you don't have the cash to double down....I might suggest to just hit in this one instance instead of fumbling for a credit/debit card.

The entire thing of allowing people to get cash at the table with plastic seems to me to be catering to the most at risk gambler. I imagine the "drunk excuse" lawsuits will increase with this one.



You're right—this arrangement is likely quite harmful for most gamblers who would use this service (especially at-risk gamblers). I don't see it being harmful to me because I don't bring much money with me on casino trips—I might buy in at a blackjack table with only $60. But I could see it being terrible for some people without the "cooling off" period like others have mentioned.
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January 28th, 2020 at 10:45:37 AM permalink
I don't even bring my debit card with me when I go to Vegas.
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January 28th, 2020 at 1:39:39 PM permalink
6 hours ago: ATMs at Las Vegas Casino Table Games Are Officially a Thing | WLS-AM 890 | WLS-AM
http://www.wlsam.com/2020/01/28/atms-at-las-vegas-casino-table-games-are-officially-a-thing/

There is a $4.00 fee for using the service and a 2.5 percent fee for the amount you withdraw. Credit cards can’t be used with the service and your debit card daily amount can’t be extended.

March 6, 2014: Las Vegas Casinos Accept Prepaid Cards https://www.bestprepaiddebitcards.com/las-vegas-casinos-accept-prepaid-cards/
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rdw4potus
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January 28th, 2020 at 1:54:52 PM permalink
Quote: Joeman


The last time I visited a casino ATM, it was a $6.95 flat fee. Fortunately for me, my bank refunds ATM fees.



Same. But I noticed an odd twist. My bank has their daily limit set to end in a 5. That theoretically accounts for the ATM fee before it has been refunded. But the system breaks when the ATM operator's fee is >5, since I have to withdraw $20 less then. i.e. $1505 works, $1507 doesn't, and $1487 just sucks.
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Vegasrider
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January 28th, 2020 at 2:03:28 PM permalink
Don't like the fee, bring more cash. Its a matter of convenience. The prices they charge at convenience stores are nowhere the price as a normal grocery store. Same principle. Or go to your bank and make a withdrawal, you have to weigh the extra tine and effort going to your ATM vs just paying the fee.
DRich
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January 28th, 2020 at 2:31:28 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

Don't like the fee, bring more cash. Its a matter of convenience. The prices they charge at convenience stores are nowhere the price as a normal grocery store. Same principle. Or go to your bank and make a withdrawal, you have to weigh the extra tine and effort going to your ATM vs just paying the fee.



I think most of our convenience stores charge $3 to $3.50
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smoothgrh
January 29th, 2020 at 7:32:02 AM permalink
Not in Vegas casinos, but along the same vein, Carnival lets you get an advance in the casino and applies it to your general account, which goes onto your CC at the end of the cruise. They charge 3% at the tables, but no fee at the machines.

So, if you want to use the money at the tables without the fee, you just go to a slot or VP machine and download your advance as credits. Then, you immediately cash out. The only catch is that you have to go to the cage to get the cash.
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Vegasrider
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January 29th, 2020 at 8:30:27 AM permalink
I know of local bar establishments that have machines, for certain known customers, the bartenders will run the customers CC thru as a normal transaction but
the. customer actually receives cash.
Lovecomps
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January 29th, 2020 at 8:40:04 AM permalink
Quote: Joeman




So, if you want to use the money at the tables without the fee, you just go to a slot or VP machine and download your advance as credits. Then, you immediately cash out. The only catch is that you have to go to the cage to get the cash.



An easier way around the whole thing (especially on a ship) is to just establish a line of credit.
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January 29th, 2020 at 8:45:25 AM permalink
As an added goodie, besides the outlandish fees, Vegas ATM's record all of your data and send it to the casino markeingt department so they can tailor any offers that they send to these people right from the data that they collect at the table. This will make it even more precise since they know what your game of choice is.

"When the money is gone it's time to move on", as the old saying goes. Anyone with common sense knows that it's time to call it a day when things aren't going your way. This could be really problematic for the weak-minded people without willpower who don't know when to quit.
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