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May 12th, 2019 at 1:32:49 AM permalink
Hi everyone!

Playing 3-card blitz last night (still no WoV page, but a playable demo here: http://inbetgaming.com/3-card-blitz)

One guy at the table was getting 5-card flushes like crazy, at $10 a bet so should pay 8:1. The dealer said 8:1 and then counted out 3 green 3 red, $90

Nobody said anything. But then she did it again when he got it a few hands later.

After the second time, I increased my flush bet from $5 to $10. Of course I never hit 5 but I was wondering how this changes the EV

Same guy hit it 3 more times during our session so he made an extra $30
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May 12th, 2019 at 2:36:19 AM permalink
Just to let you know the link you've put doesn't give the details of the bet so here is the method you can use.

Find out the House Edge of the sidebet and the chances of getting a 5-card flush and being paid one extra. The benefit in House Edge of that overpayment is the chances of getting the 5-card flush. So if that exceeds the House Edge then you would have an advantage, if not then you don't.
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May 12th, 2019 at 3:00:21 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Just to let you know the link you've put doesn't give the details of the bet so here is the method you can use.

Find out the House Edge of the sidebet and the chances of getting a 5-card flush and being paid one extra. The benefit in House Edge of that overpayment is the chances of getting the 5-card flush. So if that exceeds the House Edge then you would have an advantage, if not then you don't.



There is a playable demo but here are the numbers:
4/7 cards suited = 2:1
5/7 cards suited = 8:1
6/7 cards suited = 50:1
7/7 cards suited = 200:1
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May 12th, 2019 at 3:00:25 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Just to let you know the link you've put doesn't give the details of the bet so here is the method you can use.

Find out the House Edge of the sidebet and the chances of getting a 5-card flush and being paid one extra. The benefit in House Edge of that overpayment is the chances of getting the 5-card flush. So if that exceeds the House Edge then you would have an advantage, if not then you don't.



There is a playable demo but here are the numbers:
4/7 cards suited = 2:1
5/7 cards suited = 8:1
6/7 cards suited = 50:1
7/7 cards suited = 200:1
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May 12th, 2019 at 4:47:15 AM permalink
Confusion over 'to' or 'for' ... confusion over floor and 'eye' not noticing. Don't bank on it.
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May 12th, 2019 at 6:06:00 AM permalink
A very quick calculation (I haven't double checked it) gives, assuming it's 2 to 1 etc., 2 8 50 500 gives 2.95% and 2 9 50 500 gives 0.10%.
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May 12th, 2019 at 6:12:00 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

Confusion over 'to' or 'for' ... confusion over floor and 'eye' not noticing. Don't bank on it.




If you mean confusion on my part I am certain I have the rules and payouts correct. We play this game a lot
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May 12th, 2019 at 6:15:31 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

A very quick calculation (I haven't double checked it) gives, assuming it's 2 to 1 etc., 2 8 50 500 gives 2.95% and 2 9 50 500 gives 0.10%.



Thank you for doing this. The highest payout for 7/7 is 200:1, not 500. But if the .1% is correct Ill keep an eye out for that dealer again. Too bad it only works at the $10 level.

If you get the chance Id love a quick formula. I understand how to find house edge for craps and for roulette but when I try to do the same thing for games like this I never get the numbers quite right. I imagine Im getting the probabilities for each different flush incorrect.
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May 12th, 2019 at 7:00:49 AM permalink
8 to 1 = 9 for 1, so you'd get $80 + your $10 back.
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May 12th, 2019 at 7:19:12 AM permalink
Quote: ChumpChange

8 to 1 = 9 for 1, so you'd get $80 + your $10 back.



Got it.

The payout for having 5 of 7 suited cards is 8 to 1. A $5 should pay $40, and a $10 should pay $80. And you get to keep your original bet. These are the rules, no doubt. Go play the demo in the link if youd like.

This dealer was not paying 9 for 1 either because she was not removing the original $10 bet. She was leaving the original $10 in place, and then instead of grabbing 3 greens and a red, she was grabbing 3 greens and 3 reds. We watched this happen 3 times at least. Im not sure what her source of confusion was. The layout says 8:1, she did every other payout correct
Last edited by: GBAM on May 12, 2019

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