Audio surveillance?

Quote: darkoz

These casinos have all these poor APs quaking in their boots.
I am so ashamed at the quivering jellies in the AP field today who come up with all types of certainties that they really know nothing about. Anti-surveillance measures by AP are clearly based now in imagination

Quote: darkoz

Laser beams, lip reading, microphones that capture whispered AP conversations no matter where on property, illegal surveillance wire-taps and computer surveillance

Out of the few times (3 in six years) I have had to wrar a mask because I was caught by surveillance I know EVERYTHING about why it happened and not one reason listed above.

First time trying a move that was new and which resembled an unrelated move (security misinterpreted what I was doing and had just dealt with a similar team)

Second time, one of my people got 2 different players cards without my knowledge (one in her maiden name one married) they came thru her husband so I didn't make the connection but the casino read the ID scans as the same person and had flagged the cards.

Third time, because the casino from the second time sent my info to them and I had the WORST luck possible-winning a large jackpot lol with an attendant right behind me and another persons card in the machine (a machine in six years that has never won jackpot status suddenly decides to retrigger 35 free spins three times over smh)

I have conversations in the casinos all the time. 7 days a week. I hand people money (handing people money in a casino WOW so suspicious). I am not kitty katty (think a synonym for the real word I want to use) that the casinos are standing over my shoulder like everyone else

I am totally ashamed by my AP brethren right now reduced to skulking in hallways and walking outside huge casino complexes just to do business and wear raincoats all the time

My masks are for extreme situations like the 2 top reasons listed above for my getting caught and I needed to go back inside. Rarely do I "have" to wear a mask or shade what and who I am - AND MY PICTURE AND MO HAS BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO MANY CASINOS I CURRENTLY OPERATE IN - and I still conduct business unhampered and unobserved for years now!

Finally as to the casinos being indifferent towards me when they do discover me that suggestion is simply untrue. When heat comes down it does have huge pressure to bear. I have seen the casinos dirtiest tricks to catch me and also have seen inside their own paperwork (a privilege of discovery in a lawsuit and other court cases ongoing) so I am quite familiar with A) their real capabilities and B) their real feelings towards me as an AP

Everyone else appears to be speculating based on, I dont know what, maybe what they observed from Hollywood movies I guess

Quote: teliot

Quote: LuckyPhow

teliot,

I greatly respect your opinion. However, this time, I think you let me down by not providing any evidence of substance documenting your opinion that casinos "can and do" collect usable audio from player conversations on the game floor.

Insofar as I can, I (try to) keep up with tech developments as they affect the gaming industry, including discussions with casino staff about surveillance capabilities. What they have shared (could have been lying, I suppose) is that casinos have no way to record normal conversation from the casino floor where, for example, two players talk to one another. If I understand correctly, any company selling such technology must receive approval from gaming regulators before casinos are allowed to purchase and use what the company offers. I know of none.

My sources report they can activate audio recording, but that it requires someone in management or security to request it. Almost always, the casino is recording a personnel matter, such as when an employee is disciplined, or when a player (based on previously recorded video evidence) is questioned as part of an investigation. Such recordings are always made in an otherwise quiet room away from the gaming floor. Any such recordings (together with video) must be clear and understandable for any future use, whether terminating a dealer for sloppy performance or (far less often) for dealing with a troublesome player who, for example, agrees never again to set foot in the casino.

So, I am VERY interested in companies that advertise to casinos that their audio technology allows clear, understandable capture of conversation among persons at a gaming table. Please be so kind as to identify any companies that claim to sell such technology to casinos. If you can...

Curious minds want to know.

if the question is whether casinos record some player dialogue in some casinos somewhere the answer is certainly yes as I have personally reviewed sutch materials.

Quote: Nathan

Wouldn't APs in the Casinos just talk in Code with regular talk to avoid saying incriminating things? For example, 'I'm going to go take a leak," could be Code for "I see The Dealer's Hole Card."

Quote: AxelWolf

Quote: teliot

Quote: LuckyPhow

teliot,

Quote: AxelWolf

I had to do a double take on who posted this.

Quote: WatchMeWin

teliot, we know the casinos have access to and implement state of the art technology in many segments of the casino industry. Is if far fetched to say that they have technology to control dice in some manner or have the ability to via chips, frequencies, liquid metal, sensors, etc.?

Quote: AxelWolf

I had to do a double take on who posted this. Sometimes you really surprise me. Some AP's do in fact talk in code. The first thing I realized I needed a code word for was when there was potential heat.

Quote: Nathan

Thank you, Axel. :D I just came off with that off the top of my head, figuring what an AP would say to another AP to avoid being 86'd/backroomed/tresspassed/put on the OSN/etc.. :)