michael99000
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January 2nd, 2019 at 12:02:29 PM permalink
Quote: Vegasrider

As I had stated, a new player sits down, announces they have never played the game and show their cards and asks for advice, I and the dealer tells them what to do. Overall just trying to speed up the game. Especially New Years Eve, where it was tough to fund an open seat, almost every player who sat down had never played the game. Pretty frustrating playing with players who slow down the game.



I can see the casino backing you off because of the helping others and seeing others cards thing.

But part of the back off reason being that you won at a game with an impossible to overcome house edge is the tough thing to understand. You don’t see many people backed off for being lucky
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January 2nd, 2019 at 12:28:57 PM permalink
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I can see the casino backing you off because of the helping others and seeing others cards thing.

But part of the back off reason being that you won at a game with an impossible to overcome house edge is the tough thing to understand. You don’t see many people backed off for being lucky



Yes, the house has their 2% edge so I agree that they are not backing me off for that and I do have losing sessions. Note to myself, never ask the c asino to ooen up the game for me, I suffered my worst lost when I did that. I think they just want to maximize the tables win, but at the end of the day, almost all the players go broke because I don't provide advice for every hand they play.

Puzzling as you often see players asking what to do in Pai Gow. I thinks it's a very similar game to Pai Gow, what the other player decides to do has zero outcome of my hand so asking for advice should be harmless. It's not that I'm an annoying winner, I'm just too helpful in the eyes of the casino. I don't have an issue with the staff, overall they are very friendly, even the shift supervisor who gave me the warning. I've been giving them tons of action the past 5 months, they have gotten to know me well.
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January 2nd, 2019 at 12:33:42 PM permalink
But , for example, when they want to bet 3x in UTH do you tell them "if it is worth betting at all, you bet the max, 4x?" or somesuch?
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January 2nd, 2019 at 1:14:32 PM permalink
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But , for example, when they want to bet 3x in UTH do you tell them "if it is worth betting at all, you bet the max, 4x?" or somesuch?



If they show their card, and ask what they should do, I tell them bet 4X, or check if you don't want to bet.
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January 2nd, 2019 at 4:19:13 PM permalink
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If they show their card, and ask what they should do, I tell them bet 4X, or check if you don't want to bet.

I'm sure you know very many players, easily the majority, will bet 3x consistently except for maybe the best hands. It's possible some pit boss realized you are hurting the house.

However, I would still think it was something else you do that irritates them.
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January 2nd, 2019 at 4:25:22 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

I can see the casino backing you off because of the helping others and seeing others cards thing.

But part of the back off reason being that you won at a game with an impossible to overcome house edge is the tough thing to understand. You don’t see many people backed off for being lucky



Well if it’s hard to get a seat, the casino prefers someone that doesn’t know basic UTH strategy. Huge differences in HE.
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January 2nd, 2019 at 4:49:12 PM permalink
I have a feeling the casino staff might tell a different version of this story. My best guess, hearing only one version, is you were slowing down the game or being too forceful with your advice. I doubt your previous wins and losses had much to do with it.
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January 2nd, 2019 at 5:24:42 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Well if it’s hard to get a seat, the casino prefers someone that doesn’t know basic UTH strategy. Huge differences in HE.



I've never worked at or played in a casino where any Staff cares if a player plays perfect basic strategy. Many places allow you to have a strategy card.


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michael99000
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January 2nd, 2019 at 5:32:11 PM permalink
Quote: unJon

Well if it’s hard to get a seat, the casino prefers someone that doesn’t know basic UTH strategy. Huge differences in HE.



Prefers bad players .. probably.

Will physically back off a player just because they know how to play correctly ... probably not
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January 2nd, 2019 at 6:02:41 PM permalink
Quote: michael99000

Prefers bad players .. probably.

Will physically back off a player just because they know how to play correctly ... probably not


Don’t disagree, but it explains the “winning percentage” comment in the OP. Possibly just a toss in from the person giving the “back off.”
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