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moneyandcash
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:49:11 AM permalink
are there casino cheaters?
BleedingChipsSlowly
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:56:55 AM permalink
No. Not at all. Not a one.

That's why casino's put so much money into security. You wouldn't be trolling the forum now, would you?
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June 25th, 2016 at 3:04:49 AM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

are there casino cheaters?



Ya think? Some of them write books and do demos on you-tube afterwards. Check that out.

Any confessions yourself?

I am not a cheat or thief, and always observe that old thing being true about 'cheaters never prospering', but find it interesting to ponder.
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June 25th, 2016 at 6:11:09 AM permalink
I find it interesting to ponder too. I must admit it has crossed my mind to try a quadruple down at blackjack.

For those who don't know the move, suppose you have a three-unit bet at blackjack and you are playing in the fourth or fifth position. The guy at first base is deciding whether to hit or stand. You know you're going to double but instead of placing three units next to your bet you place the units on top of your bet. You turn your cards over indicating a double down and wait for the dealer to come to you. He'll do one of two things: he'll wait for you to place six units next to your six units or he'll divide your stack into two equal stacks and proceed to give you your double down card.

You must be a little drunk to try to pull this move off.

You can read all about this and other moves in Stanford Wong's Winning Without Counting.

I hesitate to mention the quadruple down move but cheating moves are already out there in many publications. I may ponder such moves but I very much doubt I would ever try one.
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June 25th, 2016 at 6:31:46 AM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

are there casino cheaters?



I play a lot at the borgata but in September I'm going to cheat on her with the cosmopolitan
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June 25th, 2016 at 11:51:44 AM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

anyone knows how to cheat in casino?



Capping bets and past posting are two of the most well known ways. There are countless others, your only limitations are your creativity and the law
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June 25th, 2016 at 12:00:26 PM permalink
How to? Yes. Willing to? (Fred Sanford voice) Are you crazy?!?!?!
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June 25th, 2016 at 12:17:53 PM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

are there casino cheaters?

Ask a stupid question - of course there are. Where there's money to be made there's always going to be someone at it. I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred, however most the time things are kept hush and the people involved quietly dismissed.
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June 25th, 2016 at 1:20:24 PM permalink
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:47:38 PM permalink
Just a word of caution that conspiring to cheat a casino is a Class B felony in Nevada, punishable by 1 - 6 years in prison and a $10k fine. Where the line is between "discussing" and "conspiring" is up to the D.A., but I err on the side that keeps me out of the pokey.
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June 25th, 2016 at 2:52:30 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

I err on the side that keeps me out of the pokey.



Why is it called the pokey? Is it because when you bend over . . . um, eh . . . Never mind.
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moneyandcash
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June 27th, 2016 at 2:18:25 AM permalink
@charliepatrick,

You are very dumb, I just started a thread so people can talk about the issue.

I am sure you get NO cheating skill at all.

you said: " I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred,......"
lol
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June 27th, 2016 at 2:27:19 AM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

Ask a stupid question - of course there are. Where there's money to be made there's always going to be someone at it. I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred, however most the time things are kept hush and the people involved quietly dismissed.




@charliepatrick,

You are very dumb, I just started a thread so people can talk about the issue.

I am sure you get NO cheating skill at all.

you said: " I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred,......"
lol
charliepatrick
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June 27th, 2016 at 5:00:50 AM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

@charliepatrick ....I am sure you get [sic!} NO cheating skill at all...

Hopefully I'm not that dumb but you are correct in that I have no cheating skills whatsoever - I have enjoyed playing at casinos and have no intention of cheating. On the other side I hope that casinos have no intention of cheating me. The events I mention are usually where employees, sometimes in association with conspirators, attempt to steal from the house.

Thus, on a different tack, I agree that discussing methods that people/casinos might use against players would educate and help others spot things! For instance, I heard in the old days dealers could affect things in the way they picked up the cards (alternately Hi Lo) and not [hand] shuffle very well - but hopefully that time has long gone since the cards have to be kept in order in case the hand needs reviewing.
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June 27th, 2016 at 5:25:31 AM permalink
Those who would like one on one tutoring on this issue can usually find a helpful source down at the House of Detention.
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June 27th, 2016 at 10:21:14 AM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

@charliepatrick,

You are very dumb,

I been called "dumb' never "very dumb"

why use very?

Quote: moneyandcash

you said: " I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred,......"
lol

sacked
I 1st read that as stacked

isn't "sacked" a British thing word, like I wuz watching a video about Pete Best (that Beatle 1st drummer guy)
he said he was sacked, so did John Lennon say that word.

I think NFL quarterbacks get sacked in the USA

OP
U define cheating
as casinos and courts in different states have their own definition

fun thought
stacked
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June 27th, 2016 at 10:50:16 AM permalink
"stacked" ?
Bragging?
Youuuuuu MIGHT be a 'rascal' if.......(nevermind ;-)...2F
OnceDear
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June 27th, 2016 at 11:01:39 AM permalink
Quote: mustangsally


isn't "sacked" a British thing word, like I wuz watching a video about Pete Best (that Beatle 1st drummer guy)
he said he was sacked, so did John Lennon say that word.



Don't know.
In England, to sack is a verb and means to dismiss from employment.

"You're sacked" almost equivalent to "You're fired"
or as a noun
"I had to give him the sack" = "I had to fire him"

http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/151100.html


Americans tend to fire people, and the British sack them, but there is a subtle difference concerning how the tools of the trade were dealt with.

When sacking, these were placed in the sack and could be taken to the next place of employment.

When firing, these were ritually burnt, so that you could never work in that trade again.
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June 27th, 2016 at 11:07:43 AM permalink
In the US an employer or boss fires an employee.
Sacked is more like when you get a co-worker fired, sometimes deviously ;-)
Has nothing to do with drugging them, sticking them in a burlap sack after stripping them naked, and leaving them outside the boss's office along with a pic of the boss's naked wife ;-)
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charliepatrick
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June 27th, 2016 at 11:55:49 AM permalink
Quote: OnceDear

...In England, to sack is a verb and means to dismiss from employment...."You're sacked" almost equivalent to "You're fired"...

Yes as I'm from the UK I meant it as 'to have ones employment terminated'.

Strangely "You're Fired" has become a catchphrase due to Sir Alan Sugar and "The Apprentice" TV programme, so I doubt the two phrases are now used interchangeably.
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June 27th, 2016 at 6:20:51 PM permalink
Quote: moneyandcash

@charliepatrick,

You are very dumb, I just started a thread so people can talk about the issue.

I am sure you get NO cheating skill at all.

you said: " I've heard of staff being sacked and players being barred,......"
lol



Money and cash,

Personal insult. 3 days. I almost made it 7 because you somehow felt you needed to insult him twice, but here's your opportunity to read the forum rules while on a minimum suspension .
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