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Wizardofnothing
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June 3rd, 2016 at 8:09:06 PM permalink
Oh, sorry I didn't relate it-
That whole theory is highly improbable-
The 10-15 percent of bankroll for a win rate based on varying bets is absolute bunk
No longer hiring, donít ask because I wonít hire you either
onalinehorse
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June 3rd, 2016 at 8:15:03 PM permalink
Especially if playing against crooked shfl shuffler, that is as sure
tongni
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June 3rd, 2016 at 9:41:03 PM permalink
I don't think the iDeal randomizes the cards sufficiently. I think the use of the shuffler changes the house edge on certain games, depending on other factors. I didn't always believe that, but some very smart people have convinced me otherwise. I think that the edge swings slightly towards the house a little more due to the rules of some of the carnival games, but it might be something like 4% vs 3% HA.
billryan
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June 3rd, 2016 at 11:29:37 PM permalink
Wouldn't it be more productive to bet big when you win. Eliminate the hunches.
CaptCampion
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June 4th, 2016 at 12:07:05 AM permalink
Wassup Bill
AxelWolf
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June 4th, 2016 at 3:57:06 AM permalink
If it's not random then it's exploitable it's amazing that no one is taking advantage of this situation.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
tongni
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June 4th, 2016 at 4:02:49 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

If it's not random then it's exploitable it's amazing that no one is taking advantage of this situation.



Think about it and you'll realize that it's not true. For example, if a packet of 3 cards are slightly more likely to be a pair in 3CP, that favors the house due to the rules of the game. Even moving things slightly 1% a direction or another is not enough to impact carnival games with a high HA.
AxelWolf
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June 4th, 2016 at 4:24:35 PM permalink
Quote: tongni

Think about it and you'll realize that it's not true. For example, if a packet of 3 cards are slightly more likely to be a pair in 3CP, that favors the house due to the rules of the game. Even moving things slightly 1% a direction or another is not enough to impact carnival games with a high HA.

So they input the number of players at the table each round?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
DiscreteMaths2
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June 4th, 2016 at 4:42:30 PM permalink
Quote: tongni

I don't think the iDeal randomizes the cards sufficiently. I think the use of the shuffler changes the house edge on certain games, depending on other factors. I didn't always believe that, but some very smart people have convinced me otherwise. I think that the edge swings slightly towards the house a little more due to the rules of some of the carnival games, but it might be something like 4% vs 3% HA.



If a casino is using a biased or rigged shuffler that would require 100% surveillance to make sure no employees are colluding with gamblers. Hardly seems worth the trade off.
Assume the worst, believe no one, and make your move only when you are certain that you are unbeatable or have, at worst, exceptionally good odds in your favor.
onalinehorse
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June 4th, 2016 at 7:20:36 PM permalink
Everytime I colluded with an casino employee, he was survelliance.

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