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qw78
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April 8th, 2013 at 1:15:04 AM permalink
Hi bilcgo,

That's very interesting! Where can I find more of such deliveries?
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April 8th, 2013 at 5:17:26 AM permalink
Quote: appistappis

where I deal there is no cutting allowed....I have seen cutting allowed if a player was banking.....never heard of anyone cutting a house banked hand....also, it is strictly forbidden for the dealer to converse in any language other than english.



That's a joke, right? In Vegas I barely hear a word of English. It might be a 'rule', kind of like no driving over 65mph on the highway....
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April 8th, 2013 at 7:16:24 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

That's a joke, right? In Vegas I barely hear a word of English. It might be a 'rule', kind of like no driving over 65mph on the highway....


I've seen signs like that at pai gow tables. You probably would not like playing pai gow at Foxwoods, as they are very strict. Each pai gow table has a sign that says "No talking while setting hands" although I've never actually seen it enforced. They only offer four delivery methods: the house way, cup say, jung quat, and the Chinese dragon. You can do any of them left-to-right or right-to-left (or head-to-tail / tail-to-head for the Chinese dragon). But you must tell the dealer how you want the tiles delivered because they won't let you touch the stack, and rearranging the tiles before selecting the delivery method is therefore out of the question.
sodawater
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April 8th, 2013 at 12:49:20 PM permalink
In Atlantic City you have the following options:

1. House way right or left
2. cup say right or left
3. jung quat
4. chee yee
5. pin say right or left
6. dragon tail/phoenix head right or left

You also can tell the dealer to make cuts for you when it's your turn to bank, but you are not allowed to touch the tiles yourself before they are dealt.


There are also signs that say no discussion among players while setting hands, but that is never, ever enforced. And there are no signs about english only -- in fact, most of the conversation in the game, dealer included, is in chinese.
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June 17th, 2013 at 9:17:06 AM permalink
In both Tunica and Biloxi, I have often seen signs on the tables that say something like, "only English may be spoken at the table while tiles/cards are in play". Never seen it anywhere else.
If the House lost every hand, they wouldn't deal the game.
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January 19th, 2014 at 6:21:53 AM permalink
Quote: Aussie

Those are the normal cuts and are usually determined at random. What was mentioned a the start of the thread is an extra shuffle done after all of that has been completed. As I said it is called a "lar jar".



A La Ja is requested by or given permission by the largest wager on the table.
The players can ask for one per shuffle and usually ask for one when they’re on a losing streak.
It involves the dealer taking roughly six tiles from the centre of the stack and placing them either on the left or the right of the pile. The player who requests a la ja chooses which side to place them on. Then the remaining tiles are slid across and reformed back in 8 stacks of 4 high.

I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.
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January 19th, 2014 at 8:06:15 AM permalink
There are 20 different shuffles/cuts for Pai Gow. Some casinos have an extra dice for when the house is banking, usually a different colour and the result of that die will determine which of the six predetermined cuts will be dealt.
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February 18th, 2014 at 9:25:27 PM permalink
I've dealt tiles for 20 years..thought I knew all the different shuffles....then a guy who worked in australia shows me a whole bunch more.
get second you pig
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February 18th, 2014 at 9:35:24 PM permalink
Quote: Samork


I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.



I'd like to read your details. I find any new information on PG tiles pretty interesting.
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February 18th, 2014 at 10:02:27 PM permalink
Quote: Samork



I've been dealing Pai Gow for over four years, I can give a detailed analysis about all twenty cuts if anyone is interested.



This is what Im wanting to find- an analysis of all the cuts available even if not usually allowed at the table. :)
"Although men flatter themselves with their great actions, they are not so often the result of a great design as of chance." - Francois De La Rochefoucauld

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