Don't Come Betting

Does anyone else make strictly don't come bets? I make only one bet per point the next throw immediately after the shooter establishes his point- no oddds either. $15-$25 per bet to grind out a profit. Dealers say it is a great betting strategy, but then again I tip well. I was just wondering if anyone else out there does the same thing or close to it?

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Does anyone else make strictly don't come bets? I make only one bet per point the next throw immediately after the shooter establishes his point- no oddds either. $15-$25 per bet to grind out a profit. Dealers say it is a great betting strategy, but then again I tip well. I was just wondering if anyone else out there does the same thing or close to it?

There are a lot of don't betters on this site. I'm not one. That said, you'd be better off making a lower original bet and using the extra funds to make the odds bet.

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you'd be better off making a lower original bet and using the extra funds to make the odds bet.

By passing up the "no house edge" odds bet, you may think you're risking less, but you are actually allowing the house an edge they don't deserve, especially on a point of four or ten. See the Craps info on the Wizard's main page for more details: https://wizardofodds.com/craps

I would feel better about making that odds bet as well as you are automatically at a 13.9% disadvantage at the comeout roll. Once the point is established making those odds makes alot of sense. I would be DCs with the minimum and laying odds to make the $20. So, on a $5 table, lay $30 on the 4 and 10, $24 on the 5 and 9, and $18 on the 6 and 8. You have a much better upside this way.

On the pass line, I feel like you're always playing catchup when you place the odds. For don't pass/don't come, you are taking advantage when the shooter gets past the come out roll, and I would take as much advantage of that as possible. Of course, the odds are the equalizer on both sides, with a bigger gain and loss should the shooter make the point.

I play don't come as opposed to don't pass so not be be destroyed by numerous come-out sevens, and I originally layed odds on my don't come bet, but discovered that it was more likely that a shooter would hit my point than seven out on his second throw (my come-out roll).

It seems I am doing better now by making larger single flat bets without odds even though the math says I shouldn't be. Not to mention it is better for comps, and I make more money when the 2 or 3 shows every so often on my come-out.

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I play don't come as opposed to don't pass so not be be destroyed by numerous come-out sevens, and I originally layed odds on my don't come bet, but discovered that it was more likely that a shooter would hit my point than him crapping out on his second throw (my come-out roll).

It seems I am doing better now by making larger single flat bets without odds even though the math says I shouldn't be. Not to mention it is better for comps, and I make more money when the 2 or 3 shows every so often on my come-out.

I'm not sure what you mean by "crapping out" you can not crap out but you can seven out and your odds bet does not communicate with the dice to let them know one way or the other. I do play the don't come and don't pass very often and unless the table is hot I very often come out ahead... but only if I take a reasonable amount of winnings and leave the table. All trends END! Anyway... make the odds bet, it's the best bet in the casino!

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I play don't come as opposed to don't pass so not be be destroyed by numerous come-out sevens, and I originally layed odds on my don't come bet, but discovered that it was more likely that a shooter would hit my point than him crapping out on his second throw (my come-out roll).

It seems I am doing better now by making larger single flat bets without odds even though the math says I shouldn't be. Not to mention it is better for comps, and I make more money when the 2 or 3 shows every so often on my come-out.

The dice don't knopw if it is a come-out roll or the roll after. A shift-manager craps instructor told me hoe to find the most darkside bettors. Simply find the craps table closest to the poker room. His claim was darkside bettors will eat the disadvantage of the comeout to be a bigger advantage after and don't mind betting 2 to win 1. Put another way he said poker players are odds-calculators.

I go back to how the late Frank Rosenthal put it on his site--"Pass/Don't, take/lay-it does not matter."

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I make only one bet per point the next throw immediately after the shooter establishes his point- no oddds either.

If that pace does not bore you, more power to you. Or if you´re not looking for some significant comps.

Have you considered making a lay bet aainst a number you hate (or even the point) just while your personal roll is in the comeout mode?

dealers are more prone to make errors on dont come bets than dont pass bets. sometimes the dealer will forget to take your dont come bet when you are trying to establish a point if an eleven is rolled. sometimes the dealer will forget to take your losing wager if you roll the point you established. if you lay an unusual amount thats hard to figure the payout for sometimes the dealer will overpay you.