zoobrew
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May 27th, 2015 at 8:08:42 AM permalink
I think it is crazy that people think criminal backgrounds checks are not necessary. All that cash and all those kids and you don't think trying to weed out criminals is necessary. Many school districts now require background checks on anyone involved in school events, even volunteers and at least locally the prevs still find a way into the schools.
bigfoot66
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May 27th, 2015 at 8:10:43 AM permalink
Quote: Riva

The biggest grief that occurred came from the State.




Boy, isn't this always the case.

But congratulations on a successful event. You have to win a lot of $2 and $5 bets to pay a $125 per shift dealer.
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bigfoot66
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May 27th, 2015 at 8:13:46 AM permalink
Quote: zoobrew

I think it is crazy that people think criminal backgrounds checks are not necessary. All that cash and all those kids and you don't think trying to weed out criminals is necessary. Many school districts now require background checks on anyone involved in school events, even volunteers and at least locally the prevs still find a way into the schools.



Didn't you just answer your own question? The criminals can and do find a way in despite all the barriers. The barriers end up costing the charity thousands of dollars while not increasing security and you "think it is crazy that people think criminal backgrounds (sic) checks are not necessary."
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zoobrew
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May 27th, 2015 at 8:35:28 AM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Didn't you just answer your own question? The criminals can and do find a way in despite all the barriers. The barriers end up costing the charity thousands of dollars while not increasing security and you "think it is crazy that people think criminal backgrounds (sic) checks are not necessary."


By your logic I should not lock my car or home doors because criminals can still break into my car/house even with locks. Criminal background checks will at least weed out the know criminals, who commit the majority of crimes.
Riva
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May 27th, 2015 at 9:18:11 AM permalink
Quote: zoobrew

By your logic I should not lock my car or home doors because criminals can still break into my car/house even with locks. Criminal background checks will at least weed out the know criminals, who commit the majority of crimes.



I don't disagree with your logic however, these volunteers are, for the most part, parents of the children attending a church-related school at a cost of about $15,000 per kid, per year. Hardly your criminal profile.

That said, only 3 people actually touch real money. And, there is rarely enough chips in a dealer's tray to get hurt, even if somebody were to grab it and run out the door.

Dealer/player collusion? Could it happen? Sure. However, our floor supervisors know that if a dealer needs more than one fill per shift, they are very unlucky or very stupid, or both.
Riva
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May 27th, 2015 at 9:44:47 AM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

Boy, isn't this always the case.

But congratulations on a successful event. You have to win a lot of $2 and $5 bets to pay a $125 per shift dealer.



You are 100% correct. Some BJ tables don't even make that much for the night. The big earners for us are roulette (5 layouts) and craps (2 14') and, of all things, the Big 6 money wheel. With regard to the wheel, the person dealing that game needs to have Tommy John surgery after the weekend is over. The wheel never stops spinning and players keep putting $5 on either the Joker or the flag or both and nothing else. It's a riot. http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=5v9eo2%3E&s=8#.VWX0QkarHFM
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May 27th, 2015 at 9:45:37 AM permalink
What are the blackjack rules at this event?
Riva
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May 27th, 2015 at 9:58:16 AM permalink
Quote: Avincow

What are the blackjack rules at this event?



$2 min. $5 max

Double on anything

5 cards under 21 automatic win

split aces cannot BJ

BJ pays 2:1

Dealer can hit soft 17

House takes ties

Dealers never shuffle. New/shuffled 8 deck shoe brought out to them when current shoe empties.
DJTeddyBear
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May 27th, 2015 at 10:08:24 AM permalink
Quote: Riva

4 days prior to the event, the State had not processed the criminal background check on about 60 of our volunteer dealers. We had no choice but to go out and hire dealers otherwise there would be no one to deal the darn games. By Friday (the day of the event) we had 30 people approved. 30 people were never processed. Some worked in other areas of the event (food and beverage, etc.) but some were told to go home.

Personally, I think it is wrong for the State to require a criminal background check for a person working as a dealer at a church or school related function on their own premises and for $0 pay. It's all being done because of all the skank that is going on in the "charity" poker rooms throughout the State. Unfortunately, all charity gaming, poker and traditional events like mine, fall under the same law so, we are all painted with the same proverbial brush.



I get all that, but I thought you had reported a few weeks ago that the new law forbid paying ANY of the gaming staff.
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May 27th, 2015 at 10:20:15 AM permalink
Quote: DJTeddyBear

I get all that, but I thought you had reported a few weeks ago that the new law forbid paying ANY of the gaming staff.


If that we're the case, none of the charity poker rooms would be open here. To some of those dealers, it's their only income. And that was a max of $50 a night. I don't know what the max is now.
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