bigfoot66
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May 18th, 2015 at 9:51:51 PM permalink
Quote: charliepatrick

I saw this game on trial in Coventry and found the "whether to use the Power Card or not" an interesting idea (for instance with AK5 5 you might play AK5). They had the rule that your Beat The Dealer bet couldn't be more than 4x the other bets. My initial reaction was it would be slow to resolve so it's interesting to hear it's in a casino.

Personally I'd just prefer if you had to make a mandatory bet based on either your best 3-card hand or the 4-card hand rather than faffing around with more cards.



I thought about this too. I might prefer the game if we skipped 4th street as a separate bet and just flipped over 1 more card and that's your 5 card hand. I suppose you could still flip 2 more cards as well with a less generous and lower variance pay table. This might speed up the game a bit. There were several times when most players were drawing dead or close to it on the last card.
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May 18th, 2015 at 9:57:06 PM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Let's make a comparison. High Card Flush has been around for 4-5 years. Last I heard, not long ago, it had about 100 tables. I am sure PaigowDan has a better number, but then it could be confidential. Its not easy to have 200 placements.

B66, were there a lot of players on your table? What did they say about the game?

BTW, great review.



When I got there there were 3 older ladies playing. Zcore appeared to be familiar with them and I got the impression that they were friends who made the casino a weekly date together, but I may be wrong. 1 player did quite well with flushes and straights, she was there when I left. I had printed Miplet's strategy and took it with me, when I left to tried to offer it to her but she declined, insisting that she already knew the strategy....

One lady had a pretty bad run and left saying "I hate this game!" But I think it was just a reaction to her bad luck.
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May 18th, 2015 at 10:06:49 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Thanks for the review and kind words. It was a pleasure meeting you. If I even need a couple body guards I'm calling you and DJTeddyBear. :)

As a player I think Player Power Poker is a great game. If it was sitting next to a Three Card Poker game at a casino I visited there is no doubt I'd sit at Player Power Poker. The only issue as a Table Games guy is that a lot of table games players either don't want to or can't compute odds, outs, probabilities, changes, etc in their head. Simple games are the ones that stay.

Blackjack is very simple for the average player. Stay on anything between 12-20 when the dealer has a bust card. Hit until you have 17 - 21 when the dealer does not.

Three Card Poker - play if you have Q 5 4 or better, fold if not. Heck, even playing just about anything doesn't hurt that bad.

Let it ride - take your bet back if you don't hit a pair of 10's or better.

High Card Flush - play if you have a 3 card flush face high or better, fold otherwise.

Roulette - pick a number and see if the ball lands on it.

Player Power Poker has some variables and up to 6 cards other than the ones in your hand that you can see on the table that make close to optimal strategy difficult to remember. It's a great game, but might be to intellectual for players to play well.


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I agree that the game is much better than 3 card poker. I think that a relatively simple strategy could be formed. The real tough calls are pairs vs flushes or better, and the bottom line is that with very low pairs you will take the reduced payout for high pairs, with mid pairs you will take a flush, and with high pairs you need at least a straight.
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May 18th, 2015 at 10:30:18 PM permalink
Quote: bigfoot66

When I got there there were 3 older ladies playing. Zcore appeared to be familiar with them and I got the impression that they were friends who made the casino a weekly date together, but I may be wrong. 1 player did quite well with flushes and straights, she was there when I left. I had printed Miplet's strategy and took it with me, when I left to tried to offer it to her but she declined, insisting that she already knew the strategy....

One lady had a pretty bad run and left saying "I hate this game!" But I think it was just a reaction to her bad luck.



Although I did know all 3 ladies, they had no common-ness(not really a word) between them other than being players there.

I'll be giving the game 90 days to build up a little following and see how it's doing. It doesn't have to have the Three Card Poker numbers at that point since there is a huge savings in annual lease payments between the two games, but it does need to be building after that point and not stagnant or declining.

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May 18th, 2015 at 10:38:18 PM permalink
Quote: Zcore13

Although I did know all 3 ladies, they had no common-ness(not really a word) between them other than being players there.



Actually, it is, without the hyphen. Commonality would probably look a bit prettier, though, if I may.
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May 18th, 2015 at 10:47:57 PM permalink
Quote: Mission146

Actually, it is, without the hyphen. Commonality would probably look a bit prettier, though, if I may.



Hmmm. My spell checker didn't think it was a word. Comonality would have been an excellent choice. I will try harder next time. :)

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May 18th, 2015 at 11:30:46 PM permalink
Nice report!

If this game expanded to my area, I wouldn't mind trying it...at a 5:1:1 ratio or better of course.
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May 19th, 2015 at 8:39:44 AM permalink
Quote: tringlomane

Nice report!

If this game expanded to my area, I wouldn't mind trying it...at a 5:1:1 ratio or better of course.



Yeah its worth a shot. I usually play $15-$25 pai gow or baccarat, and I was happy playing $10-$20, $2, $2 on this game.
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May 19th, 2015 at 9:58:51 AM permalink
Quote: UCivan

Let's make a comparison. High Card Flush has been around for 4-5 years. Last I heard, not long ago, it had about 100 tables. I am sure PaigowDan has a better number, but then it could be confidential. Its not easy to have 200 placements.

B66, were there a lot of players on your table? What did they say about the game?

BTW, great review.



Dan is no longer with Galaxy. But 100 placements is pretty damn good. Not many get there. 200 would be one of the top games in the industry.


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