High Limit Rooms, Table Games, Vegas

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Great post. Next time I go to Vegas, I want to do more whale watching.

Quote: Deucekies

Great post. Next time I go to Vegas, I want to do more whale watching.

I've never been in the high limit section of a casino. Are you allowed to go in and just watch? Or is that frowned upon?

Any time I go to a dog track, I like to watch the 1 huge poker game that is going on. Crazy to see that much money being bet every hand.

Excellent post…

my thoughts:

C/P - excellent high limit room - I am fond of a few of the dealers therein and what makes it extra nice is the private cashier window

Paris - only played there once for about an hour - no real thoughts about it - just felt like any other room

GN - it does feel like a hallway - but, the dealers are friendly and the pit staff is helpful (although no private cashier)

Aria - a beautiful room - runs very hot and cold for me (would like there to be a private cashier (although you can go ingot he host office, you still have to leave the high limit room to do so))

In reference to the question about watching.

My experience is it depends on how you are watching. Are you being unobtrusive and not bothering anyone. You'll probably be fine. If you're loud, drunk, stupid, or gawk like a tourist who has never seen a black chip, not to mention anything higher, you'll probably be asked to play or leave. They don't want to chase out a real gambler though.

Funny story, I was playing in AC once in the "high limit" room at Harrah's. The room is usually only $50 a hand for BJ. Anyway, I was playing and doing pretty well, then this guy stood behind me, he reeked of booze, and needed a shower, he was muttering to himself and making comments about every play. It seemed like I had lost every hand since he got there. So after a brutal double down loss. I turned around and said why don't you sit down and play; or go the bleep away. He said "f**k you, sat down and asked for a 8K marker, which he was quickly given. So clearly he was known there. He played with me for a while and we were both making money. I apologized, bought him a free drink, and we had a good session. Both made money. But I swear I though he was a bum off the street. Not a guy with and established line of credit. So you never know.

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I've never been in the high limit section of a casino. Are you allowed to go in and just watch? Or is that frowned upon?

I'm sure some of them frown upon it, but the handful that I've been in have been more than welcoming, chatting me up, answering my questions, and telling me stories of action they've seen (no names, of course). Whenever I'm in a high limit salon, I'm always sure to conduct myself as if I'm in a library.

Quote: aceofspades

Excellent post…

my thoughts:

C/P - excellent high limit room - I am fond of a few of the dealers therein and what makes it extra nice is the private cashier window

Paris - only played there once for about an hour - no real thoughts about it - just felt like any other room

GN - it does feel like a hallway - but, the dealers are friendly and the pit staff is helpful (although no private cashier)

Aria - a beautiful room - runs very hot and cold for me (would like there to be a private cashier (although you can go ingot he host office, you still have to leave the high limit room to do so))

Thanks.

I do like the GN, but its the weirdest feeling being where the pit is located, actually part of that hallway/breezeway. And yes, the personnel tries hard, just there is no real money on the tables I guess. I think the reason I can't do anything there is-the absence of 'mojo' sort of. Hard to explain.

You are spot on about Paris.

Quote: uwf9990

I've never been in the high limit section of a casino. Are you allowed to go in and just watch? Or is that frowned upon?

Any time I go to a dog track, I like to watch the 1 huge poker game that is going on. Crazy to see that much money being bet every hand.

I strictly play HL and NO you will not have a problem to enter and watch. There is seldom ever any security blocking the doorways. Only a handful of times at C.P. and Bellagio have I ever seen security there special, and that was due to Andrew Dice Clay, Alex Baldwin or some other celeb being in the main part of the HL and not in a private room in the rear of them. You are allowed to stand and watch, try not to get up on top of the players, other than that, there is no problem watching.

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You are allowed to stand and watch, try not to get up on top of the players, other than that, there is no problem watching.

I'm assuming jumping in on someone's shoe for one $300 hand wouldn't be advisable either? ;)

Quote: Deucekies

I'm assuming jumping in on someone's shoe for one $300 hand wouldn't be advisable either? ;)

You can enter any shoe of baccarat at anytime. Unless there is a 'Reserved' sign on the table. I think all BJ would be 'no-mid shoe entry'. At BJ the norm is usually if someone is playing alone and it is off hour, not a Friday or Saturday night and crowded, etc., ask "is it okay if I join you". Kind of stops any ill-will and some do really want one on one without having a reserved table. But that is up to you as to how you feel about asking. Just IMHO. At baccarat it is always a community game anyways unless that table is Reserved. Most tables are $100 min. CP/B/Mirage has numerous $300 and $500 and a few $1k min tables. Read the signs that are clear to save embarrassment. Baccarat doesn't matter one hand or not. Not one player can change the cards.

Quote: Baccaratfrom79

I think all BJ would be 'no-mid shoe entry'. At BJ the norm is usually if someone is playing alone and it is off hour, not a Friday or Saturday night and crowded, etc., ask "is it okay if I join you". Kind of stops any ill-will and some do really want one on one without having a reserved table. But that is up to you as to how you feel about asking. Just IMHO.

That's what I was going for with the joke. On our "high limit" table (a whopping $10 min), we often see people jump in for one $10 hand without asking the others at the table, and after they leave, there's always some huffing and puffing from the bigger players.

Quote: Deucekies

I'm sure some of them frown upon it, but the handful that I've been in have been more than welcoming, chatting me up, answering my questions, and telling me stories of action they've seen (no names, of course). Whenever I'm in a high limit salon, I'm always sure to conduct myself as if I'm in a library.

I'm gonna try tomorrow. And yeah, that's how I am at the big poker tables, I just stand off to the side and watch. I know that if i was a high roller type, I wouldn't want some random dude coming in and talking to me haha.

I really enjoyed your post Baccaratfrom79. I think you nailed it on the high limit rooms. I have always told people that Caesers has the best Baccarat dealers on the strip. The room always seems to have players also. I generally stay at Mirage and come over to Caesars to play baccarat and pai gow tiles.

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I really enjoyed your post Baccaratfrom79. I think you nailed it on the high limit rooms. I have always told people that Caesers has the best Baccarat dealers on the strip. The room always seems to have players also. I generally stay at Mirage and come over to Caesars to play baccarat and pai gow tiles.

The Mirage and Bellagio used to be the premier places to play Baccarat for years, but they both fell off. We love the Mirage, our MGM hosts always comp us for the kids to go to the Secret Garden in the back 40 there to play with the Dolphins and look at all the wild tigers, lions, panthers and animals. The VIP tour is second to none and the kids have done it 3 times during the past 4 years. Japanois restaurant is great! WE have seen Love show twice (no more) and lots of other things. But there baccarat room (next to the high limit) is a nice, just there dealers are like puppets--almost no emotion and the floor people I swear, seem like a rule they have to be 90 to 150 pounds overweight and approaching 60 years old and just lurk, just bob and sway from side to side trying to stay awake for their shifts??? I have never seen so many players with their heads in their hands than at the Mirage.

I remember when C.P. had those big tables and the pit was the old one, it always rocked no matter what. The private lounge in the back, although not super fancy is always ready, fresh and good food. Fruit, snacks, pasta, deserts, Asian food, etc. Mirage is lucky to have a handful of granola bars and a fruit tray with some canned soda. It just that way. Bellagio has a small lounge in the back and too bad, still better at C.P.

Our favorite dealer at C.P. is Cho, the Chinese guy. The best dealer I have ever seen in my life anywhere. He is the kinda of dealer that makes the game. I remember winning really good in 2013 and CHo was like, time to leave, really just go and call it a day. He knows what can happen. We played games there and Cho would be cutting out change and throw a few blacks up on the tie as he was pushing out my change from paying commission. And I would leave it
and then he would deal a tie. Of course he demanded a vig on that one, but you know when things are going right--you can't lose. They are real people and they know how to treat players and do things the right way. I can honestly say I never saw an argument over $10 or $25 at C.P. in the HL room like other places.

I always have front money and when I sit down at C.P. the floor person will call to verify and then tell the dealer to cut it out real quick, he will have the paperwork brought like 5 to 10 mins later, no big deal. That almost never happens at the other places, you have to wait for the pit clerk to write it up and re-verify and come over, takes up to 10 mins. Like wise, I can deposit my money back in my account at the table and then go away for awhile to eat or walk around. When I return if its the same floor person he will ask how much I want and cut it right out without even calling. Old school know how and class is all. Nice touches that makes things smooth.

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It's actually against gaming regulations to not allow you to watch, in NV. If they ask you to leave tell them no thanks, as long as you are not being disruptive they can do nothing. if they do anything more than that, call Gaming and report them and they will be extremely sorry. MGM is notorious for having people leave. Well, one time it was two plainclothed gaming agents. That ended badly for them.

Not in LV, but I was asked to leave a high limit slot area yesterday. I was standing maybe 10 feet away from a guy playing a 27$ (9x3) slot and watching. A host comes up and asks if I'm with him; I'm not, so I just say I'm waiting for somebody. Tells me that I can't just stand around in high limit.

Ooookay. So I walk outside, run into the rest of my party, and my host who's walking by. He was a lot more polite as I was escorted past him into the lounge.

I was in a high limit slot room once as a newbie gambler. Just looking around. A security guy came over and said I had to play or leave. Not wanting to look like the broke 20 something I was, I put $20 in a $2 blazing 7's machine. It was the cheapest machine in the room. Most of the machines in there were $5 and up. Anyway, my intention was just to pull once or twice until the guy left and I could slink out of there like the low roller I was. Luckily on the first spin I hit an 80 to one winner. I was only playing one line but still made $160, which was a nice score for me at the time. Took the wife to a nice dinner(we were very newly married). Never would have bet or won that money, if I hadn't been yelled at to get out of the high limit room. Every time I walk by that room I still smile. Haven't set foot in there since.