Martin1024
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May 21st, 2014 at 6:24:55 PM permalink
One of my local casinos has this game and I haven't been able to find any kind of information on the internet.
The game is played with a roulette lay out with 36 numbers and a 0-00. The game is played with four dices, two green ones a black one and a pinkish one. If the green ones roll a 2 or 12 then its a 0-00 respectably . If the black dice rolls a 1 and pink rolls a 2 then the wining number is the 2 on the roulette esque lay out. Every time the greens roll a 2 or 12 the other combination is ignored and it's an automatic 0-00., if the green ones roll any other combination they are ignored and the number is chosen acording to the other two dices.

I'm sorry if this sounds confusing but I'm typing from a phone and English is not my main language.

Basically the lay out is divided on six sectors, basically double streets and each one is represented by one black dice combination.
For example the black dice Ace covers the 1-6, the deuces covers the 7-12, and so on.
The pink one is set on the numbers if each sector, so the black dice 2 and pink 4 would result in the winning number 10.

Everything else is played exactly like roulette wit even money bets on high low numbers,, black and red, dozens, etc. Inside. Bets are paid the sam.

I haven't been able to find any information about this. Game, I don't know if the he would be the same as with American roulette, or if there is an y strategy to be exploited because may be some numbers combination are more biased because of the dices probability of being rolled.

Thanks for your time and for any information!
ThatDonGuy
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May 21st, 2014 at 7:06:47 PM permalink
Quote: Martin1024

One of my local casinos has this game and I haven't been able to find any kind of information on the internet.
The game is played with a roulette lay out with 36 numbers and a 0-00. The game is played with four dices, two green ones a black one and a pinkish one. If the green ones roll a 2 or 12 then its a 0-00 respectably . If the black dice rolls a 1 and pink rolls a 2 then the wining number is the 2 on the roulette esque lay out. Every time the greens roll a 2 or 12 the other combination is ignored and it's an automatic 0-00., if the green ones roll any other combination they are ignored and the number is chosen acording to the other two dices.

I'm sorry if this sounds confusing but I'm typing from a phone and English is not my main language.

Basically the lay out is divided on six sectors, basically double streets and each one is represented by one black dice combination.
For example the black dice Ace covers the 1-6, the deuces covers the 7-12, and so on.
The pink one is set on the numbers if each sector, so the black dice 2 and pink 4 would result in the winning number 10.

Everything else is played exactly like roulette wit even money bets on high low numbers,, black and red, dozens, etc. Inside. Bets are paid the sam.

I haven't been able to find any information about this. Game, I don't know if the he would be the same as with American roulette, or if there is an y strategy to be exploited because may be some numbers combination are more biased because of the dices probability of being rolled.

Thanks for your time and for any information!

If I am reading this right, there is a 1/36 chance of getting 0, 1/36 of 00, and 17/648 (about 1/38.12) of any other number. I assume that 0 and 00 pay less than 35-1, as otherwise they are "fair" bets.

Since the chance of getting either 0 or 00 is now 1/18 instead of 1/19, this increases the house edge on all even-money and 2-1 bets from 5.26% to 5.56%. For that matter (again assuming a 35-1 payout), the house edge on the numbers besides 0 and 00 is now also 5.56%.
Wizard
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May 21st, 2014 at 7:17:23 PM permalink
Can I have the name of the casino please. I'd like to ask them for the rules directly.
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beachbumbabs
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May 21st, 2014 at 8:28:11 PM permalink
I suppose it depends on the pay table, but the 2-12 is not really equivalent to 0-00, because they occur more often (1/18 v. 1/19 collectively) and because they negate another result rolled simultaneously, which skews the rest of the number results to slightly lower than they would be. Better that they rolled the green ones first each hand, and only if the green ones were not 2-12, should they roll the black/pink dice at all. OTOH, it makes a better basket bet.

I do think the mechanism (essentially using base 6 to determine numbers) is a pretty clever way of avoiding using a roulette wheel, which is more expensive by far, and difficult to maintain compared to dice, and also uses significantly less real estate; you could have a single felt with no wheel in the area taken by a typical BJ table, and a small acrylic box for the dice to roll unimpeded by chips. It wouldn't take that much felt revision to change a standard roulette layout to indicate the translation from dice to numbers.
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GWAE
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May 22nd, 2014 at 4:27:41 AM permalink
who rolls the dice?

any pics of the layout?
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Martin1024
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May 22nd, 2014 at 5:12:54 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Can I have the name of the casino please. I'd like to ask them for the rules directly.

That may be a little difficult its a casino in Mexicali Baja California, Mexico, the Casino name is "Prestige". Also in the casino I work they had the game but the changed it for another roulette wheel. I know the the rules pretty well, the pay outs are the same as roulette 35-1 straight up i nside numbers, 17-1,11-1,8-1,5-1 and 6-1. The four dices are rolled at the same time by the dealer in a sand clock shaped cilinder. I'll try to take a picture of the table and the lay out without getting noticed, cause they don't allow pics inside the live game area.
Nareed
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May 22nd, 2014 at 7:44:03 AM permalink
Quote: Martin1024

That may be a little difficult its a casino in Mexicali Baja California, Mexico, the Casino name is "Prestige".

Ah, that explains it.

When I visited the Royal Yak in Mex City, they had something similar to the dice roulette (perhaps identical), but it wasn't set up to work just then. I could go back and check it out... I just don't like braving the traffic or traversing the empty parking garage.

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The four dices are rolled at the same time by the dealer in a sand clock shaped cilinder.

You. Exactly like the Yak.

BTW, "dice" is plural. The singualr is "die."
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Martin1024
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