darkoz
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:29:59 AM permalink
Has the Wiz seen this roulette variant? I was curious about it. I just saw it today installed at both the Caesars and Borgata properties.

It is a regular E-roulette double zero game from Organic with a Football sidebet.

The game has a screen of a football field graphic which keeps track of the Football game.

Here are the rules.

The sidebet can be made at any time except during a "football game". The min. is $1 and max is $5.

If the outcome of any spin is any red or black number then the bet loses.

If the outcome of any spin is green - then the football game is initiated and the bet is locked until the outcome of the next four spins.

The player is asked to pick a team - red or black - if the player does not pick within the time allotted, they will be randomly given a team to root for.

Each spins outcome decides the yardage for the red or black team. The lower the number on the wheel, the less yardage gained. There is a key on the game to show how much yardage, for ex. number 1-10 = 3 yards while 31 - 36 equals fifteen yards.

So if red 7 is the next spin, the red team has gained 3 yards. If the second spin is 31 black, then the black team has gained 15 yards which would put the ball at 12 yards for the black team.

a green spin is no yardage.

At the end of the fourth spin, the position of the ball(that is the football on the graphic - not the position of the roulette ball) determines payouts.

fifty yard line = tie = 5:1
winning team wins are
41 - 49 yards = 10:1
31 - 40 yards = 25:1
21 - 30 yards = 50:1
11 - 20 yards = 75:1
1 - 10 yards = 250:1
touchdown - 500:1

the losing team actually still wins even money.

I'm sure this is a huge house edge sidebet but it seemed like fun and I was curious about it.

EDIT: I JUST DOUBLE CHECKED THE PHOTO IN MY PHONE AND I WAS A BIT BLURRY EYED AT TWO IN THE MORNING. THE PAYOUTS WERE OFF BY ONE YARD, EX. IT,S 1-10, NOT 1-9 AND 11-20, NOT 10-19. I JUST CORRECTED THEM IN THIS POST SO ABOVE IS CORRECT NOW.
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Venthus
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March 27th, 2014 at 12:36:18 AM permalink
South Point also has this, but I think the payouts are different.

My gut reaction was "Oh god, how drunk do you have to be to bet this?"
DJTeddyBear
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March 27th, 2014 at 5:27:18 AM permalink
Either you left out a big detail, or there's no way to lose.

Edit: I re-read it and figured it out. A green triggers the game. Any other initial spin is a loss.
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endermike
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March 27th, 2014 at 5:54:04 AM permalink
If one team scores a touchdown (gains >=50 yards) after three or less spins, does the mini game end without the final spin(s) happening?
miplet
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March 27th, 2014 at 6:46:05 AM permalink
Quote: endermike

If one team scores a touchdown (gains >=50 yards) after three or less spins, does the mini game end without the final spin(s) happening?


It's not possible. You need all 4 15 yard spins to score a touchdown. Game analysis later today if no one else gets to it first.
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ThatDonGuy
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:46:54 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

It's not possible. You need all 4 15 yard spins to score a touchdown. Game analysis later today if no one else gets to it first.


Game analysis requires full knowledge of how many yards each number generates.

Also, does a green on a "yardage spin" count as one of the four spins?
endermike
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March 27th, 2014 at 7:57:41 AM permalink
Quote: miplet

It's not possible. You need all 4 15 yard spins to score a touchdown. Game analysis later today if no one else gets to it first.



Whoops. thanks. I was nonsensically thinking of "red 36" meaning 36 yards for red. However it seems the description then is missing the yardage gains for spins from 11-30. Darkoz, can you give us the full yardage table?
darkoz
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March 27th, 2014 at 8:19:10 AM permalink
I am going back there today and will get all the details. It was the midnight hour and I was not going there to play roulette yesterday. Just scouting which casino excited me the most and noticed this game.

I took a photo however of the payouts and those r correct as listed.

Also, I clearly remember that the smallest amount of yardage gained was 3 yards and the most was 15. So I just need to clarify what number spread garners what yardage.

Also, just to clarify, if the ball lands in either green during the four spins, then yes it counts as one of the four spins - with zero yardage gained. A new game is not triggered since the bet is unavailable during the course of the "football game".
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DJTeddyBear
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March 27th, 2014 at 8:41:57 AM permalink
Quote: endermike

Whoops. thanks. I was nonsensically thinking of "red 36" meaning 36 yards for red. However it seems the description then is missing the yardage gains for spins from 11-30. Darkoz, can you give us the full yardage table?

I assume those are zero yards.
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Venthus
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March 27th, 2014 at 9:36:31 AM permalink
Poked around a bit... Looks like it does have multiple paytables, and if it's a single 0 game, then it triggers on 0 or any repeated number.

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