treetopbuddy
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March 19th, 2014 at 5:09:56 AM permalink
The NOR guy needs to take some seminar money and go straight to the dentist.

This cat reminds me of the dude that was playing 500 plus a hand in Bac and had 3 teeth.
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gr8player
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March 19th, 2014 at 8:09:00 AM permalink
Quote: DMSCR

We both have the same general ideas and approaches to the game. Just continue to do what you are doing.



Correct, and I have every intention of doing so.

Quote: DMSCR

I realize baccarat requires a much different approach and angle unlike the other major card games......Seems like not many are able to figure it out and waiting for someone to light the way. I would not be surprised if folks figured things out like you did gr8 but smart enough not to publicly disclose things to ruin the game. This is just way too fragile. And honestly it is better to keep it as a guessing game and thinking this whole spiel is some blind coin toss.



Correct, yet again.

I am not here to educate the uneducated.

I am here, however, to enlighten those that are under the impression that there is no method of play that can overcome the house's edge.

As you and I (and players whose approaches to this game are similar) know, Baccarat is a unique game, it being a closed-end, shoe game. And these shoes have certain traits or characteristics (I dare not say trends around here) that CAN BE exploitable. Why the caps on "can be"?: Because that very exploitation requires so much more than most "uninitiated" would ever think of: Bet placement and bet size manipulation, based upon certain criteria (read: variance and/or table/shoe disposition). And, even given all of that, the very necessary patience and discipline to carry the "plan" out, complete with strategic exit points.

Yeah, D-man, you're right, let 'em go right on "thinking this whole spiel is some blind coin toss"...that's their own, personal "comfort zone"...

Stay well, my friend.
gr8player
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March 19th, 2014 at 8:23:01 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

Please don't tell me this guy is getting $500 a pop for this......If people are paying this guy for some discombobulated craft paper seminars with some O/1 marks while making crap up along the way. How dose he advertise? Anyone have more information on this operation?



Hello, AxelWolf, I trust all is well with you.

Yes, there are those that join his private website and pay for the information and services. These people are, IMHO, the "uninitiated" who are under the impression that they can adopt a methodology as their own and become..."presto!"...a successful professional Baccarat player.

It is, yet again as my humble opinion, nothing more than "Fool's Gold".

And the kicker is, AxelWolf, that even on that very website they must've changed "courses" (read: adjusted and re-adjusted their Bac play) a dozen times, all to custom-fit the "new and improved" "best Baccarat play ever" into their sales pitches.

Yet, again, the uninformed, the naïve, continue to contribute to the coffers. Un..be..lieve..able. Those that want so badly to believe in something, anything, that'll help them make some money inside a casino; and the fact that they have to pay for it only serves to substantiate their tainted notion. Simply un..be..lieve..able!
gr8player
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March 22nd, 2014 at 8:11:20 AM permalink
As promised...

Thursday night 9:45 P.M. buy-in

First shoe W7 L7
Second shoe W5 L9 (difficult session, but rather expected, coming off a 91% strike last Friday...it's called "variance")
Third shoe W5 L3

Total for session: Won 17 of 36 bets for a 47% strike rate and a +1 units (thank you, gr8player's progression) (no commish)


Friday afternoon 1:00 P.M. buy-in

First shoe W10 L5
Second shoe W5 L4 (game broke up mid-shoe)

Total for session: Won 15 of 24 bets for a 63% strike rate and a +7 units (no commish)

Trip Totals: Won 32 of 60 bets for a 53% strike rate and a +8 units (no commish)

And the beat goes on....that's about all any serious player can ask for. Normalcy. Normalcy in their strike rates, in their money-management, and in their variances. Just go according to plan, and all is well in your Bac world.

Sure, Thursday night was a tad difficult. But, so what? Or, should I say, what else is new? These sessions exist, and will always exist, unless I can ever come up with a 90% strike rate bet placement. Ain't never gonna happen. So, we try to control the downs as best we can while we reap the benefits of the ups.

It ain't rocket science, my friends. Just some good ol' patience and discipline and planned play, both bet selection- and money management-wise.

Stay well, all.
treetopbuddy
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March 22nd, 2014 at 8:41:35 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

As promised...

Thursday night 9:45 P.M. buy-in

First shoe W7 L7
Second shoe W5 L9 (difficult session, but rather expected, coming off a 91% strike last Friday...it's called "variance")
Third shoe W5 L3

Total for session: Won 17 of 36 bets for a 47% strike rate and a +1 units (thank you, gr8player's progression) (no commish)


Friday afternoon 1:00 P.M. buy-in

First shoe W10 L5
Second shoe W5 L4 (game broke up mid-shoe)

Total for session: Won 15 of 24 bets for a 63% strike rate and a +7 units (no commish)

Trip Totals: Won 32 of 60 bets for a 53% strike rate and a +8 units (no commish)

And the beat goes on....that's about all any serious player can ask for. Normalcy. Normalcy in their strike rates, in their money-management, and in their variances. Just go according to plan, and all is well in your Bac world.

Sure, Thursday night was a tad difficult. But, so what? Or, should I say, what else is new? These sessions exist, and will always exist, unless I can ever come up with a 90% strike rate bet placement. Ain't never gonna happen. So, we try to control the downs as best we can while we reap the benefits of the ups.

It ain't rocket science, my friends. Just some good ol' patience and discipline and planned play, both bet selection- and money management-wise.

Stay well, all.



My confidence in you has been a little shaken after your horse racing post:-)
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gpac1377
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:13:23 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

It ain't rocket science, my friends.


Hello gr8player. It appears safe to assume that all is well with you.

Near the beginning of the month, you said you average +5 units per session, and you win over 90% of your sessions.

Your actual results for the past three weeks: +28 units (6 sessions)

You're basically printing money, despite running slightly bad this month.

The problem I guess is that you're only up 700 actual dollars, assuming the standard $25 unit size. If I recall correctly, you said playing higher stakes throws off your game, but that should simply be a matter of acclimatization. What are your goals for moving up to higher unit sizes?
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treetopbuddy
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:21:27 AM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Hello gr8player. It appears safe to assume that all is well with you.



I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing.
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gpac1377
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:29:32 AM permalink
Quote: treetopbuddy

I'm sorry but I can't stop laughing.


Hello treetopbuddy, I trust all is well with you.

I'm pleased that you're enjoying the thread.

Stay well, my friend.
"Scientists tell us that the fastest animal on earth, with a top speed of 120 feet per second, is a cow that has been dropped out of a helicopter."
gr8player
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:34:49 AM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Hello gr8player. It appears safe to assume that all is well with you.

Near the beginning of the month, you said you average +5 units per session, and you win over 90% of your sessions.

Your actual results for the past three weeks: +28 units (6 sessions)

You're basically printing money, despite running slightly bad this month.

The problem I guess is that you're only up 700 actual dollars, assuming the standard $25 unit size. If I recall correctly, you said playing higher stakes throws off your game, but that should simply be a matter of acclimatization. What are your goals for moving up to higher unit sizes?



Hmmm...let's do the math, shall we?:

I play one session on Thursday night and one on Friday. so it's two sessions per trip.

I average 5 units won per session, so that's 10 units per trip.

At your stated "$25 per unit", I'd be clearing only $250 per trip. Minus expenses:

Rental car: $86.12
Gas: 40.00
Tolls: 25.00

My fixed expenses, before I step foot inside the casino, are $151.12, so, in effect, I'd be making these trips only to clear a grand total LESS THAN one hundred dollars.

Never happen....

And never assume my unit sizes.
treetopbuddy
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March 22nd, 2014 at 9:39:01 AM permalink
Quote: gpac1377

Hello treetopbuddy, I trust all is well with you.

I'm pleased that you're enjoying the thread.

Stay well, my friend.



ROFLMAO……well I'm not rolling on floor but I can't stop laughing…..I'm sorry gr8player
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