AxelWolf
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February 2nd, 2014 at 10:55:22 PM permalink
I have played many cash bets on blackjack with no problems. If the dealer wants ti change it out fir chips wave her or him off and say, NO thats bad luck. I have yet to be refused. Some house may have a strict policy regarding this. I have yet to run into this problem. I doubt it's a law concidering a lot of poker games in vegas alow cash to play.
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Beethoven9th
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February 2nd, 2014 at 11:09:45 PM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

I have played many cash bets on blackjack with no problems. If the dealer wants ti change it out fir chips wave her or him off and say, NO thats bad luck. I have yet to be refused.


Same here. I've never had a problem doing this on BJ, roulette, or craps. It's probably just a house rule that's rarely enforced.
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Tomspur
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February 3rd, 2014 at 12:03:01 AM permalink
Axel, there is a big difference between Poker where the money doesn't belong to the house but is in a shared pot between the players. The house removes its rake in chips, never in cash so therefore they don't have a hand in what happens.

Its amazing to me that the casinos don't enforce this rule as it is one of the more serious policies out there.

Oh well, not in my house :)
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Hunterhill
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:40:40 AM permalink
It used to be very common, even up to about 2005 or so. Now most places won't allow it.
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djatc
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February 3rd, 2014 at 4:46:43 AM permalink
Quote: Hunterhill

It used to be very common, even up to about 2005 or so. Now most places won't allow it.



I've only seen it on Asian-centric casinos, and Asian-centric games. Bac at the Gold Coast and the Palms.
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SanchoPanza
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February 3rd, 2014 at 8:14:34 AM permalink
Quote: FleaStiff

The Feds don't like it

If it's less than $10,000 what is the government's interest?
rob45
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:04:46 AM permalink
Quote: SanchoPanza

Quote: FleaStiff

The Feds don't like it

If it's less than $10,000 what is the government's interest?


Laundering dirty money becomes increasingly simplified with "money plays".

Really depends on the exact procedures of the house in question, but here is a scenario.
Let's suppose I place a wager of $100 with illegal currency.
If I lose, the dealer drops the currency in the box, and I leave the table (assuming I am intentionally using illegal currency).
If I win, the dealer may do one of two actions, depending upon rules of that particular casino:
1. The dealer pays me $200 in cheques, collects the currency wager, and drops the $100 currency in the drop box.
2. The dealer pays me $100 in cheques for the winning wager, leaving the currency on the table.

If #2 applies, I have the option of retaining the illegal currency (putting it back in my wallet) and either cashing out the cheques at the cage for "clean" cash, or continuing to gamble with the $100 worth of cheques.
In either case, the original "dirty" money never made it into the casino's inventory of currency, and nobody would ever be able to track it down.
DRich
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February 3rd, 2014 at 9:17:44 AM permalink
I would say most casinos started tightening up on playing cash a few years ago when the government began fining the casinos for Title 31 infringements.
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AcesAndEights
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February 3rd, 2014 at 10:13:22 AM permalink
Quote: Beethoven9th

Not from what I've seen. There have been plenty of instances where I've seen someone throw down money for a bet in craps, and the dealer/box books it. Granted, all of these situation may have been with players whom the dealers knew well, but whatever the case, that's what I've observed many times here in Vegas.


I've seen this most often at craps. One time at Bellagio, an older Asian gentleman walked up to a mostly empty craps table with his family in tow. He would throw down a benjamin and shout out "hard eight!" The stick would say "that's a bet!" and half the time, the dice would be thrown and he had lost before they even put the black chip on the layout. He did this about 6 or 7 times before walking away a loser.
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February 3rd, 2014 at 10:36:15 AM permalink
If I was laundering cash, I'd be happier if they changed all my bills so I can get different bills later on. What's the purpose of laundering money if I have to keep it?

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