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Bottom right of the image file, shows red and blue circles, underneath are circles (solid and hollow) and two forward dashes. Everything seems to change after each result is entered. I've asked the mangers who all appear clueless and who give wise-ass remarks. One Chinese dealer did explain, but it went right over my head. I would like to read up on it.
Quote: egaliteCan anybody explain or point me to a link which explains what algorithms the prediction portion is based on.
Bottom right of the image file, shows red and blue circles, underneath are circles (solid and hollow) and two forward dashes. Everything seems to change after each result is entered. I've asked the mangers who all appear clueless and who give wise-ass remarks. One Chinese dealer did explain, but it went right over my head. I would like to read up on it.
There is an app that you can get for your phone that explains many ways of sideways runs. Go here http://digitalscholarship.unlv.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1131&context=grrj
http://www.worldgamingmag.com/en/gaming/gaming-insights/item/52-fate-in-the-cards-understanding-baccarat-trends-part-2
If someone, anyone can use all that information overload above and able to generate even at least +1 unit for a shoe, I would be duly impressed.
Like everything else if it is easily out there publicly, you are not going to able to get much out of it unless you see something underneath all that.
Quote: egaliteCan anybody explain or point me to a link which explains what algorithms the prediction portion is based on.
The Wizard wrote about them here: https://wizardofodds.com/games/baccarat/history/
These statistics and predictions are used in the free baccarat game found here and on Wizard of Odds.
Quote: JB
These statistics and predictions are used in the free baccarat game found here and on Wizard of Odds.
Now if the Wizard allows flexible manual deck manipulation that can simulate real casino playing conditions I would pay $100 to $200 for it.
Quote: JBAlso, the section you are referring to is not predicting anything; it merely shows what icons would be added to the various history tables if the next outcome is a Player win or Banker win.
Okay, this thing with the stats is actually pretty fun....
Quote: Mission146I don't care if I could toss the card up into the air and put a bullet through it, Baccarat would still suck.
So how much money did you lost from bac?
Quote: DMSCRSo how much money did you lost from bac?
One member here lost $250,000.
Quote: Beethoven9thOne member here lost $250,000.
You talking about gr8? Some see it as a loss but I see it as tuition. If gr8 is able to learn from that -$250,000 then that wouldn't be an issue. If not than who the hell am I to argue? LOL.
That is how much a college education costs nowadays anyways!
Quote: DMSCRSo how much money did you lost from bac?
I've never, nor will I ever, played live Baccarat in my life.
Quote: Mission146I've never, nor will I ever, played live Baccarat in my life.
Oh no. That means you played online baccarat? Please tell me that ain't so!
So please tell me what is your hatred for live baccarat? I agree that live baccarat can be a pain in the ass especially when there are other players at the table. Especially the ones that smoke and keep changing and exchanging chips with the dealer thus slowing down and interrupting the game.
You should take that back, You never know when a good opportunity will come up. I have seen table limit match plays on BAC. I would change it to ....... I've never, nor will I ever, played live Baccarat in my life. Unless I can prove I Mathematically have an edgeQuote: Mission146I've never, nor will I ever, played live Baccarat in my life.
Quote: DMSCROh no. That means you played online baccarat? Please tell me that ain't so!
So please tell me what is your hatred for live baccarat? I agree that live baccarat can be a pain in the ass especially when there are other players at the table. Especially the ones that smoke and keep changing and exchanging chips with the dealer thus slowing down and interrupting the game.
No!
I've played The Wizard's Baccarat game and only the Wizard's Baccarat game. I'm actually going through shoes right now. I had one shoe where Banker would have been an advantage play for the last two hands, of course, I imagine that's pretty rare. Also, trying to count that would be absolutely hopeless, from what I have read on APHeat.
I don't have a hatred specifically for live Baccarat, I just don't like Baccarat. It's a card game in which the player makes no decisions, so it strikes me as being completely pointless. It's true that I enjoy Roulette, and the player doesn't really have any involvement there, but I like Roulette because you can make so many combinations of bets...even though I always make the same combination.
Anyway, that's why, because I think it is a pointless game.
It's not just Baccarat, I also hate three-card poker, minimal player involvement. Is it Q-6-4 or better, or is it not? Pointless, in my opinion.
My preferred game of pure luck is Craps, because you get to shoot the dice, Roulette is second.
Quote: AxelWolfYou should take that back, You never know when a good opportunity will come up. I have seen table limit match plays on BAC. I would change it to ....... I've never, nor will I ever, played live Baccarat in my life. Unless I can prove I Mathematically have an edge
That works.
Quote: IbeatyouracesIts where I use my free bets.
I'm going to wait for the dice to come to me and use them on Craps.
Quote: Mission146No!
I've played The Wizard's Baccarat game and only the Wizard's Baccarat game. I'm actually going through shoes right now. I had one shoe where Banker would have been an advantage play for the last two hands, of course, I imagine that's pretty rare. Also, trying to count that would be absolutely hopeless, from what I have read on APHeat.
I don't have a hatred specifically for live Baccarat, I just don't like Baccarat. It's a card game in which the player makes no decisions, so it strikes me as being completely pointless. It's true that I enjoy Roulette, and the player doesn't really have any involvement there, but I like Roulette because you can make so many combinations of bets...even though I always make the same combination.
Anyway, that's why, because I think it is a pointless game.
It's not just Baccarat, I also hate three-card poker, minimal player involvement. Is it Q-6-4 or better, or is it not? Pointless, in my opinion.
My preferred game of pure luck is Craps, because you get to shoot the dice, Roulette is second.
I remember reading an online interview with the Wizard and someone asked him what is the best game(s) to play. He answered the question quite honestly. He stressed that there is no best game. The "best" game is one that you are comfortable with.
I for one stay far away from roulette and craps because they really depend on pure luck. As for poker and blackjack which have become more about skill doesn't fit my personality.
Well at least you are staying away from baccarat. I know many folks who doesn't like the game yet still constantly plow huge amounts of money in trying to get their losses back thus magnifying their losses.
Quote: IbeatyouracesI believe the first two have already studied it and both came to the same conclusion, "don't bother."
And Sklansky thinks baccarat is for retards. Well he didn't say it so directly so he would not offend anyone but he gave a chuckle snarky response.
Quote: DMSCR
I for one stay far away from roulette and craps because they really depend on pure luck. As for poker and blackjack which have become more about skill doesn't fit my personality.
Well at least you are staying away from baccarat. I know many folks who doesn't like the game yet still constantly plow huge amounts of money in trying to get their losses back thus magnifying their losses.
I like card games that require skill, such as Blackjack, Pai-Gow Poker, Let it Ride, Money$uit31 and Mississippi Stud to get the most bang for your buck by way of playing skillfully. I haven't played either Money$uit or MS live, though, I could play MS, easily, but I don't like the Variance.
I'm one of the few who play for the entertainment value, strictly, on a -EV game. I don't go into any session believing I am going to win, nor do I believe that I will lose in any given session. Whatever happens is what happens. Because I play for the entertainment value, I won't invest too much money to be entertained, so I stick to the Table Minimums pretty strictly on a -EV game. It's not that I can't afford to ramp it up a little bit, it's just that I get just as much entertainment sticking a Red on the Pass Line as I would a Green. It literally makes no difference to me. If the Table Minimum were $3.00, I'd put three whites on the Pass Line and go to work!
Honestly, I'll buy into the Craps Table for either $50 or $100, and nine times out of ten, if I lose my first point established (without a CO winner to compensate for it) I'll usually leave the table and drop a five-spot into Video Keno. I don't like to chase, and I have the most fun at Craps when I am winning. I only bet when I am shooting, and I don't like being seen to have bad rolls. I know it's not my fault, or anything like that, but it's fun to have the table cheering you on and high-fiving and everything like that.
Video Keno is another cheap game, $5.00-$10.00 at a parlor, $5.00-$20.00 at a casino proper, unless a Progressive puts me at +ER, then it just depends on how much I like the +ER.
I was pretty heavy into +ER slots for a bit, but I got bored of it and don't really do that anymore. It was irritating to go and not find anything good.
The most recent time I played Blackjack was incredible! I'll buy-in for $50-$100 at a $5.00 Minimum, and either double or leave. I know I am playing proper BS, so I don't really mind being seen losing at Blackjack. It was incredible because I lost thirteen hands (one Surrender) with one push on a drawn 21, which was drawn both ways. I doubled 11 against a dealer six, it got painted, the dealer flipped a five and proceeded to paint his hand, too!
I haven't played it since, but I will again one day. It's just a cool story to be able to tell, essentially losing thirteen consecutive hands if you don't include the Push. I've certainly never won thirteen consecutive hands!
This.Quote: JBAlso, the section you are referring to is not predicting anything; it merely shows what icons would be added to the various history tables if the next outcome is a Player win or Banker win.
Okay I'm glad that got sorted. People and staff have been telling me the corner I pointed out in the OP was some kind of prediction system. Even the manager said they have the algorithms in a handbook but have never given me a copy. Sounds all a bit silly to me, on the normal portion of the screen, you might as well say, if bank wins next 'this colour dot will be here" or 'if player wins next the opposite colour will go here".
I could regurgitate yet again my experiences while playing roulette, you would never want to play that game again. I chose to take up Baccarat, not only because of the low house edge, the main reason is the dealers do not influence the outcome. I have zero confidence playing roulette, accepted the cards are merely instruments in determining if the punter have won or lost a 50-50 outcome. However you do still have two very important decisions to make, firstly whether to place bet & which side, secondly and IMO crucially "how much to bet".Quote: Mission146I don't have a hatred specifically for live Baccarat, I just don't like Baccarat. It's a card game in which the player makes no decisions
The first time I saw the game of Baccarat and the first time I played it losing 7 out of 8 decisions, I quickly realised it is more of a money game than a card game, the cards are secondary. In a nutshell it boils down to how much you have at your disposal, how best you can manage & safeguard it, how much you want it to grow, how are you going to achieve that. This is were the true skill lies. Once you appreciate that, it's a lot of trial and tribulation balancing risk v's return, your own comfort zone and temperament.
I regularly have fellow players telling me "I'm so lucky", giving me the cards to squeeze (yeah right), shadowing my bets like I know something they don't. I have no idea which side is going to win 90% of the time (10% of the time I'm usually correct when certain rare events have occurred, then a winner more-or-less can be predicted within a few hands). Otherwise I might as well be tossing a coin, I like to think I'm a little bit smarted than a coin toss, but for all intense and purposes admittedly it amounts to the same thing. What I do know however, is how much I won or lost throughout the shoe, where I am in any given session without the need to count my chips, my next bet size & the few after that, should this guess be successful or not, that is the key 100%.
While at the Bac tables last week, one of the regulars was moaning he lost 13 x 50-50 guesses in a row, single win then lost another 11 bets, all via trying to do what the score board was telling him, obviously whatever he was doing it was lying to him, thankfully he was only betting small.Quote: Mission146I don't really mind being seen losing at Blackjack. It was incredible because I lost thirteen hands (one Surrender) with one push on a drawn 21
I know a local BJ player who lost 19 hands straight, might have been playing against a CSM, not sure. I've watch BJ players stripped bear, losing hand after hand after hand, not a single chip left, cleaned out of $100's in less than 30 minutes. Just them against the dealer via a CSM. BJ can be an incredibly fast game, the brain goes into a whirl forgetting "hey those chips represent cash" which is what the casino don't want you to realise, plus no pens or paper allowed. Baccarat is more of a strategy game, should I bet? Which side? How much? What is my current situation?
3CP and Carrib. Stud just don't make it. Unfortunately Bacc. fits into the latter.
