7craps
Joined: Jan 23, 2010
• Posts: 1977
September 5th, 2013 at 6:24:17 PM permalink
Quote: egalite

Regarding shoes with a lack of singles (chopless),
I've played a fair few that have consisted of three or less singles, a rare event perhaps.

My sim data was for 8 deck, with burn and a 13 card ribbon.
I never played Bac in AC so I do not know the penetration.
Maybe OP knows

My Bac experience dates back to 8 deck in 1999, Reno at the Flamingo (no longer there)
They also allowed many times underage players to gamble at Bac.
My dislike for Asian Bac players comes from that time.

IIRC, you play 6 deck Bac with burn or no burn and what penetration?
the event talked about happens way more often (relatively speaking) in 6 deck vs 8 deck

IMO,still
when it comes to run distributions between the 2 games
there is a difference
winsome johnny (not Win some johnny)
egalite
Joined: Dec 30, 2011
• Posts: 164
September 6th, 2013 at 7:36:45 PM permalink
Quote: 7craps

IIRC, you play 6 deck Bac with burn or no burn and what penetration? the event talked about happens way more often (relatively speaking) in 6 deck vs 8 deck

IMO,still when it comes to run distributions between the 2 games there is a difference

Yes I've noticed a distinct different in expected distribution between the two games, there shouldn't be. I can only assume it is has something to do with smaller sample = less coherence to the norm or expectation. I would dare to suggest fewer variables, yet the ratios are the same. One 'chop-less' shoe will forever be etched in my memory for all the wrong reasons which occurred in an 8 deck game, but I've encountered similar in the UK.

Being familiar with 6 deck games, they seem crazy sometimes, one night you might see a single six, another night every shoe produces a streak of 8 ~ 10. Strange if you subscribe (which I don't) to a streak length of xx is suppose to occur every xx amount of hands, yet your seeing three occurrences of 8 streaks or greater in a single shoe, or 10 of the same side every 100 hands. You generally won't get that with coin flips and I doubt computer sims.

In the UK there are no cards burnt and the cut card is placed 12~16 from the end since a lot of casinos now offer the "super egalite", before that it was 7 from the end.