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Beethoven9th
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August 17th, 2013 at 10:51:42 AM permalink
BTW, why do guys like gr8player, Ahigh, etc. keep saying that they're going to leave this forum, yet they keep coming back?
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gr8player
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August 17th, 2013 at 11:48:12 AM permalink
I can't speak for Ahigh, Beethoven9th, but, as for me, my main reason for posting here in this most esteemed forum is so that an esteemed member such as yourself can incessantly rave on all about a so-called "challenge" that never even existed but that I apparently keep avoiding.

Your intelligence and class exudes with each one of your rants and raves regarding a non-existent "challenge".

What would you have me do, play a shoe out right here? Tell me, that would prove exactly what? There could be but two outcomes (win or lose the shoe), either of which are rendered meaningless when weighted over the long term.

But don't let that fact deter your coveted little rant, Beethoven9th....you keep right on with your incessant nonsense....after all, you're doing a good job of embarrassing someone. Just ask yourself this: Exactly who is it that might be most embarrassed from your utter nonsense?
Beethoven9th
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August 17th, 2013 at 11:59:53 AM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I can't speak for Ahigh, Beethoven9th, but, as for me, my main reason for posting here in this most esteemed forum is so that...

That's not what I asked. I asked, why do you say that you're not going to post here anymore when you have no intention of following through?


Quote: gr8player

Just ask yourself this: Exactly who is it that might be most embarrassed from your utter nonsense?

You. hehehehe... ;)
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gr8player
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August 17th, 2013 at 12:15:07 PM permalink
I made a post when I was rather frustrated that implied my departure, but I was not explicit about it. There is a difference, my friend. And, frankly, my decision as to whether or not to post in this forum, as a member in good standing, remains exactly that....mine.

How would you be served if I were to discontinue posting here? What stake have you in that?

I, on the other hand, don't mind your posting, especially that very last one, because your favorite word, you know, that "c-word", was nowhere to be found. Good job, my friend. Keep it up.
rdw4potus
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August 17th, 2013 at 12:39:03 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

I can't speak for Ahigh, Beethoven9th, but, as for me, my main reason for posting here in this most esteemed forum is so that an esteemed member such as yourself can incessantly rave on all about a so-called "challenge" that never even existed but that I apparently keep avoiding.



Make no mistake: it existed. I made it, and I made it quite clearly. But we both all know you can't win, so you have to pretend that there is no challenge. Losing would mean that even more people know that your ideas are nonsense.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
gr8player
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August 17th, 2013 at 12:49:35 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

Make no mistake: it existed. I made it, and I made it quite clearly. But we both all know you can't win, so you have to pretend that there is no challenge.



Really, rdw4potus, so there exists, in your mind at least, a challenge.....
......hmmm, and just how would a man of your intelligence suggest we proceed with same? What sort of challenge, and towards what end? To prove, or disprove, what exactly?

Time to put this obvious nonsense to bed.

I'm all ears, rdw4potus......
rdw4potus
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August 17th, 2013 at 12:54:57 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player

Quote: rdw4potus

Make no mistake: it existed. I made it, and I made it quite clearly. But we both all know you can't win, so you have to pretend that there is no challenge.



Really, rdw4potus, so there exists, in your mind at least, a challenge.....
......hmmm, and just how would a man of your intelligence suggest we proceed with same? What sort of challenge, and towards what end? To prove, or disprove, what exactly?

Time to put this obvious nonsense to bed.

I'm all ears, rdw4potus......



Every time that Beethoven9th mentions the challenge, he links to the post where I made the challenge. every. single. time. And you claim not to know anything about it. I guess it's easy to see how someone who could miss that could also think that baccarat was beatable via bet manipulation.
"So as the clock ticked and the day passed, opportunity met preparation, and luck happened." - Maurice Clarett
EvenBob
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August 17th, 2013 at 1:13:51 PM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus



Every time that Beethoven9th mentions the challenge, he links to the post where I made the challenge. every. single. time. And you claim not to know anything about it. .



You can't win this argument, he did this for YEARS
on another forum. His sage meaningless advice
and condescending attitude. The "just have the right
attitude and frame of mind and you can be a winner
just like me" crap. I knew he'd be back, he loves it
when people gang up on him. I'm telling you, read
Catch 22. He's the character Yossarian wants to kill
because he talks and talks and never says anything.
"It's not enough to succeed, your friends must fail." Gore Vidal
thecesspit
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August 17th, 2013 at 1:20:21 PM permalink
Quote: gr8player



Your intelligence and class exudes with each one of your rants and raves regarding a non-existent "challenge".



The challenge exists. It's up to you whether you accept it, but the challenge certainly exists. You can't deny it exists. You can choose not to take it.

As for everything else. You've said nothing material. Just hinted you might start telling us something after setting out some vague hand wavy attitudes. Seen it before. The good BS-ers though eventually give something more concrete. They work as they get a crowd psyched up believing first. You've failed to do that.

In short, your 'experience' and 'perceived edges' don't matter. The 1% house edge from a random string of results matter. Either

a) you can prove that a baccarat deck is not a series of (almost) independent events
b) you can somehow 'read' random numbers to get a edge on predicting (bet selection) the next event (including taking no decision on the next event).

Nothing you write shows that. 'Locking up a profit' is all BS. Always will be. If you don't have an edge, and can't work out what it is within a reasonable level of magnitude, you don't have an edge, you have dreams and fancies.
"Then you can admire the real gambler, who has neither eaten, slept, thought nor lived, he has so smarted under the scourge of his martingale, so suffered on the rack of his desire for a coup at trente-et-quarante" - Honore de Balzac, 1829
gr8player
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August 17th, 2013 at 1:23:15 PM permalink
You're mistaken, rdw4potus. I do not claim a lack of recognition, I simply realize the utter tripe of it all.

Oh, and by the way, I do happen to believe that Baccarat can be bested via bet manipulation. Both bet selection- and money management-wise.

Think about it for a minute, my friend....what else might I believe in? That I can't win? That the house edge has me doomed? And, yet, I should still put my money onto the felt....why, because I like the smell of the felt? Is that why you perceive me to be there? After all, rdw4potus, it can't be to win, right?

Or maybe I can win with manipulation....of my bet placements and their sizes, and my playing shoes/sessions (read: win/loss goals), and my variances. I do the very best that I can for myself considering what I'm up against. Rather like this place.....

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