larwiz1
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June 28th, 2013 at 4:50:49 PM permalink
I am twisting in the wind. What I want to know is how often do both dealer and myself have a Q high hand and how to go about calculating it.

I looked at the Ask the Wizard section and saw that dealer will have a Q high hand "The probability for queen high is: (combin(10,2)-1)*(43-4)/combin(52,3)=0.119457". Dealer having this removes 3 cards from the deck one of which is a "Q" thus reducing my chances of having one. So do I use the total number of hands for me as combin(49,2)=18424 total hands?

The part of the answer combin(10,2)-1 should still be the same?

When it comes to the suit combinations. There are still 4 suits for me, but not all ranks have the same number since dealer has removed a Q and 2 other lower cards. What do I do to calculate this?

Any assistance is appreciated.
MonkeyMonkey
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June 29th, 2013 at 1:38:26 AM permalink
Quote: larwiz1

Dealer having this removes 3 cards from the deck one of which is a "Q" thus reducing my chances of having one.



I'm not a math whiz, but FWIW, you get your cards before the dealer, so the dealer having a Q high hand didn't effect your potential for having a Q in your hand.
tringlomane
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June 29th, 2013 at 4:44:38 AM permalink
Quote: MonkeyMonkey

I'm not a math whiz, but FWIW, you get your cards before the dealer, so the dealer having a Q high hand didn't effect your potential for having a Q in your hand.



The dealer having a Q high hand does affect whether or not you have one. If the dealer MUST have a Q in his hand, the probability of you having Q high will change. I've been up all night though, so I will not even dare touch the math at this point.
larwiz1
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June 29th, 2013 at 5:02:53 AM permalink
True I get my hand first, thus I would have the Wizard's calculated %s for the various hands. Therefore his changes for Q, K, and A hands. I thought about taking the % of the time he will have a Q, with only 3 available, and the % of time I will have a Q with 4 available and multiplying this ratio against the .119457 and using that as the % of time for him to have a Q high hand, but that seems to simple to be correct.
CrystalMath
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June 29th, 2013 at 5:07:08 AM permalink
The number 43 in the formula should be 43, or 64.

You do use combin(49,3) for the total combinations in the second formula.
I heart Crystal Math.
larwiz1
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June 29th, 2013 at 7:14:06 AM permalink
I guess that the formatting when you copy and paste is not retained for things like the 4 cubed. There is probably some way to retain the formatting. The other was just typing error. Just what happens with old brains. Thanks for pointing these out to me.

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