DRich
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December 30th, 2020 at 5:19:23 PM permalink
I agree with REDIETZ. I don't think anyone is beating NFL sides regularly.
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redietz
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December 31st, 2020 at 6:42:53 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I agree with REDIETZ. I don't think anyone is beating NFL sides regularly.



The majority of my "54% ballpark" NFL handicapping has been totals. Even someone like Fezzik, who was magnificent back-to-back years in the SuperContest, was forced to publicly "retire" for reasons I know, will not detail, and readers may possibly surmise. Like Hellmuth in poker, some people are psychologically and pragmatically expert at tournaments. Some people are built for actual cash games.

If you have followed the overall record in the SuperContest for years, you know the consensus plays have not exactly kicked ass.
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redietz
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January 4th, 2021 at 3:21:44 PM permalink
Final tallies:

1) Northbet -- No Spread NFL -- tied for sixth.
2) Heritage -- No Spread NFL plus NFL totals -- tied for sixth.
3) YouWager -- NFL spread -- eighth out of 283.
4) Gaming Today -- No Spread NFL -- my homage to Rob Singer, especially since there were thousands of entries. Tied for sixth.

Not too shabby.

Stay safe. Enjoy the offseason.
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AxelWolf
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January 4th, 2021 at 10:36:39 PM permalink
Quote: redietz

Final tallies:

1) Northbet -- No Spread NFL -- tied for sixth.
2) Heritage -- No Spread NFL plus NFL totals -- tied for sixth.
3) YouWager -- NFL spread -- eighth out of 283.
4) Gaming Today -- No Spread NFL -- my homage to Rob Singer, especially since there were thousands of entries. Tied for sixth.

Not too shabby.

Stay safe. Enjoy the offseason.

How much money did all that net you?
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
redietz
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January 5th, 2021 at 7:10:22 AM permalink
(Note -- This is a quick analysis of the posts of the forum's second most prolific poster. You might learn something.)

Interesting and fairly irrelevant question, Axel. I suspect you know the answer The answer is not much. Now, what I find interesting, going back over your posts here, is that you consistently try to one up anyone who claims expertise on this board. Go ahead and read your own posts. That's a main theme. You did this and you did that.

You mention you won a weekly prize in a non-spread contest as some kind of response to my posts. LOL. Do you know how many of those I have won in my lifetime? Jesus, man, my girlfriend won a house in the Palace Station contest moons ago. Did I mention these things? No, they are irrelevant to 2020 contest results.

So the answer to how much the 2020 contests netted me is, not much. That's like asking an Olympic athlete how much money he won by running a four minute mile.

Now an appropriate question might have been, "You did great in those contests, but did you actually win money this year?" But you chose to not ask that. And you probably knew the answer to that. The answer would be unequivocally yes, and if A&M makes the college playoff, I make a lot more. I won 13 out of 17 weeks, which included a half-bet deficit last week but with an open teaser for the playoffs.

Note I did not mention the winning-for-the-season, as it was irrelevant to the contest results. Entering contests is part of the decision-making gestalt that contributes to winning for the season.

Axel, you should self-scout your own writing. You come across as needing to be spotlighted as some Yoda of the gambling boards. Yoda you ain't. This AP thing -- honestly, it's dwarfed by sports betting. It's like comparing a mom and pop coffee shop to a chain of steakhouses. The scale is different. The future of both is different.
What yanks my chain is that, generally, I'm too polite to mention that APing is like learning parlor room magic tricks whose tech is going to soon be outlawed and sports betting is not. I respect immensely what Axel and mickeycrimm and so on have done. But no, Axel gotta take a shot at denigrating contest results. It's not like my 2020 contest results are spectacular for me. They are not. They're solid. Without the mental mechanics of contests, do I win 13 out of 17 weeks? Maybe not. It's all, as they say, a tapestry.

Get some couth, man. Some class. You keep trying to come across as a jack of all gambling trades, with something to say about every aspect of gambling. That's how you wind up with 18,000 posts.

And Axel, how much money did your 18,000 WoV posts net you?
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January 5th, 2021 at 9:51:58 AM permalink
Quote: redietz

(Note -- This is a quick analysis of the posts of the forum's second most prolific poster. You might learn something.)

Interesting and fairly irrelevant question, Axel. I suspect you know the answer The answer is not much. Now, what I find interesting, going back over your posts here, is that you consistently try to one up anyone who claims expertise on this board. Go ahead and read your own posts. That's a main theme. You did this and you did that.

You mention you won a weekly prize in a non-spread contest as some kind of response to my posts. LOL. Do you know how many of those I have won in my lifetime? Jesus, man, my girlfriend won a house in the Palace Station contest moons ago. Did I mention these things? No, they are irrelevant to 2020 contest results.

So the answer to how much the 2020 contests netted me is, not much. That's like asking an Olympic athlete how much money he won by running a four minute mile.

Now an appropriate question might have been, "You did great in those contests, but did you actually win money this year?" But you chose to not ask that. And you probably knew the answer to that. The answer would be unequivocally yes, and if A&M makes the college playoff, I make a lot more. I won 13 out of 17 weeks, which included a half-bet deficit last week but with an open teaser for the playoffs.

Note I did not mention the winning-for-the-season, as it was irrelevant to the contest results. Entering contests is part of the decision-making gestalt that contributes to winning for the season.

Axel, you should self-scout your own writing. You come across as needing to be spotlighted as some Yoda of the gambling boards. Yoda you ain't. This AP thing -- honestly, it's dwarfed by sports betting. It's like comparing a mom and pop coffee shop to a chain of steakhouses. The scale is different. The future of both is different.
What yanks my chain is that, generally, I'm too polite to mention that APing is like learning parlor room magic tricks whose tech is going to soon be outlawed and sports betting is not. I respect immensely what Axel and mickeycrimm and so on have done. But no, Axel gotta take a shot at denigrating contest results. It's not like my 2020 contest results are spectacular for me. They are not. They're solid. Without the mental mechanics of contests, do I win 13 out of 17 weeks? Maybe not. It's all, as they say, a tapestry.

Get some couth, man. Some class. You keep trying to come across as a jack of all gambling trades, with something to say about every aspect of gambling. That's how you wind up with 18,000 posts.

And Axel, how much money did your 18,000 WoV posts net you?



A tad bitter today, red? I can tell you that Axel has made friends (me included) from his WoV postings. I can also tell you he has made money from associations that started here on WoV. I can assure you he won't divulge how much and through who.

As far as your snotty nose looking down on the type of AP stuff he does, well, you are probably right that there is more money to be made in sports betting than machine AP/card counting/comp hustling etc... SO FREAKING WHAT? Your sports betting scheme makes a fraction of a percent of what a stock market guy can make. I am SURE what I made in the market last year DWARFS what you made betting sports. BIG FREAKING DEAL. My success does not in ANY WAY mean that your great sports betting picks is not impressive. I think somewhere down thread I did compliment you. Just like I compliment Axel on his AP stuff.

You BOTH are valuable to this forum, in different areas. No reason for us to need to see "who's is bigger'!
AxelWolf
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January 5th, 2021 at 12:08:19 PM permalink
Quote: redietz

(Note -- This is a quick analysis of the posts of the forum's second most prolific poster. You might learn something.)

Interesting and fairly irrelevant question, Axel. I suspect you know the answer The answer is not much. Now, what I find interesting, going back over your posts here, is that you consistently try to one up anyone who claims expertise on this board. Go ahead and read your own posts. That's a main theme. You did this and you did that.

You mention you won a weekly prize in a non-spread contest as some kind of response to my posts. LOL. Do you know how many of those I have won in my lifetime? Jesus, man, my girlfriend won a house in the Palace Station contest moons ago. Did I mention these things? No, they are irrelevant to 2020 contest results.

So the answer to how much the 2020 contests netted me is, not much. That's like asking an Olympic athlete how much money he won by running a four minute mile.

Now an appropriate question might have been, "You did great in those contests, but did you actually win money this year?" But you chose to not ask that. And you probably knew the answer to that. The answer would be unequivocally yes, and if A&M makes the college playoff, I make a lot more. I won 13 out of 17 weeks, which included a half-bet deficit last week but with an open teaser for the playoffs.

Note I did not mention the winning-for-the-season, as it was irrelevant to the contest results. Entering contests is part of the decision-making gestalt that contributes to winning for the season.

Axel, you should self-scout your own writing. You come across as needing to be spotlighted as some Yoda of the gambling boards. Yoda you ain't. This AP thing -- honestly, it's dwarfed by sports betting. It's like comparing a mom and pop coffee shop to a chain of steakhouses. The scale is different. The future of both is different.
What yanks my chain is that, generally, I'm too polite to mention that APing is like learning parlor room magic tricks whose tech is going to soon be outlawed and sports betting is not. I respect immensely what Axel and mickeycrimm and so on have done. But no, Axel gotta take a shot at denigrating contest results. It's not like my 2020 contest results are spectacular for me. They are not. They're solid. Without the mental mechanics of contests, do I win 13 out of 17 weeks? Maybe not. It's all, as they say, a tapestry.

Get some couth, man. Some class. You keep trying to come across as a jack of all gambling trades, with something to say about every aspect of gambling. That's how you wind up with 18,000 posts.

And Axel, how much money did your 18,000 WoV posts net you?

I actually didn't know if you get something for the other places or not, I don't pay all that much attention to contestes. since you said Not much, I assume you did make something? Oftentimes in poker we see that people place in the money in a few events i'm always wondering just how many events they entered and what their actual profit was. I'm sorry you took it as a flippant comment. But hey I gave you a lead in so now you can tell us how much money you made for the season without coming off as bragging.

You asked how much has my 18k posts made me? WAY MORE THAN YOU CAN IMAGINE(PRICELESS)... both personally and financially. This site is directly responsible for getting solid information and making solid contacts, meeting some really good trustworthy people, people who I'm now friends and partners with, some whom I have done business with, or just people I'm friends with and I like(For example, ZenKing). people I would have never meet if not for posting here.

There's been some really fun times with many of the people I have meet from this forum. I'm actually just about to go hang out and chill with some guys I meet here on the forum that are in town. I don't discriminate just because one of them probably likes trannys. (-:

My experiences and the people I have meet directly related to my posting on this site is worth more than a million dollars to me.
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