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June 7th, 2019 at 3:17:00 PM permalink
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Damn im so smart.



GOAT quote😀
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June 7th, 2019 at 3:46:52 PM permalink
People, including me, and some black players, think Drake, who is black, is going way over the line, just by acting like a clown and inserting himself into games that have nothing to do with him. I heard that the NBA had to tell him to back off.

I'm reasonably sure that if Drake actually assaulted Steph Curry, it would be a big deal.

If he assaulted Green, RIP buddy.
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June 7th, 2019 at 4:33:42 PM permalink
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People, including me, and some black players, think Drake, who is black, is going way over the line, just by acting like a clown and inserting himself into games that have nothing to do with him. I heard that the NBA had to tell him to back off.

I'm reasonably sure that if Drake actually assaulted Steph Curry, it would be a big deal.

If he assaulted Green, RIP buddy.



But what if Spike Lee attacked Reggie Miller?

In all seriousness, we kind of saw what is being argued about here about 15 years ago at the Malice at the Palace. In the fracas Ron Artest went after a white fan like 7 to 10 rows up in the stands who had absolutely zero to do with what actually happened. Artest got a year suspension, I personally think he should have been thrown out of the league
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Rigondeaux
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June 7th, 2019 at 4:58:50 PM permalink
Quote: Gabes22

But what if Spike Lee attacked Reggie Miller?

In all seriousness, we kind of saw what is being argued about here about 15 years ago at the Malice at the Palace. In the fracas Ron Artest went after a white fan like 7 to 10 rows up in the stands who had absolutely zero to do with what actually happened. Artest got a year suspension, I personally think he should have been thrown out of the league



Yeah. Same thing, in that, you just cannot have violence occurring between players and fans. And it doesn't matter what the races are.

I think Artest was saved by the fact that someone did launch a beer (some drink, anyway) straight into his face and he attacked the wrong guy. If he had just decided to attack unprovoked, I think he'd have gotten a lifetime ban.

Artest's penalty was more severe than what the Warriors investor got. A year of NBA salary is a lot more thank 500k, and probably a higher portion of his net worth. But, the level of violence was also higher.

I'm sure the fan also got a juicy civil settlement.
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June 7th, 2019 at 6:03:36 PM permalink
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You misread my post which seems to happen every single time on these forums. I was talking about KYLE LOWRY not the owner. KYLE LOWRY, black nba players, and the whole black community are the ones that feels insecure about white people who shove them or think theyre 'above' them. You've even seen it with Russell Westbrook with Utah fans. You see it with LeBron always crying about racism about owners etc. Stephen A smith the analyst etc etc.

If it was a black fan who did that to lowry he wouldnt he even care or at least not as much as he's making it out to be. That shove probably made Lowry feel 'disrespected' and seen as 'inferior' to the white rich priveleged man. How could you have possible misunderstood my post and then call it ridiculous?



I absolutely understood your post. It was ridiculous. It is beyond acceptable for a minority owner of the GSW to have shoved and cursed a player who fell into the crowd. It had NOTHING to do with who was black and who was white. Lowry had every right to be offended - even if it was a Joe Sixpack.

People who sit courtside for several rows back, including photographers and those standing under the goals, are accepting the almost inevitable crashing body at least once in a game. More like a dozen if you include the ones right under the basket.

When a player DOES come flying in, he's a million dollar property trying to earn his keep with ball hustle, not an annoyance to be shoved and cursed because he fell out of bounds into people less than his body length from the boundary line. Hell, lots of people are THRILLED to have a great story about LeBron or whoever falling on them.

Not EVERYTHING IS about race. That's the only part you got right. The GSW organization is completely embarrassed by their co-owner's behavior, and have made several apologies the last couple of days. If it was just Lowry whining, they could have ignored it.

Likewise, the NBA. I think they went too hard, but they wanted to set a higher standard for their owners. I don't think Joe Sixpack gets the 500k fine and 1 yr ban, but I bet he gets ejected and gone for the season at least.
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June 8th, 2019 at 5:02:23 AM permalink
Had a good bet on the Raptors 1100 to win 1000 @ the spread (too bad I cancelled some of my original bet of $1650).

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For the game on 06/10, I think the Raptors should be about a 2.8 to 4.8 point favorites (using -3.8 as the average).
If you are a Raptors punter*** you should take the -3.5 available atm.
If you are a Warriors punter*** you should wait.

***: IMO there is a 75% to 85% chance that the Raptors will go to -4.

I am not betting big on this game at this time, but I may have a small bet on the Warriors if they get around +4.5 to +5 (this would be a "just for fun" bet of $110 or less).

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Update (about 242 pm Pac Time): 6/8/19 ~10:20 AM Kevin Durant - Calf - Questionable
I decided to have my $100 "Even odds" on the warriors @ +3.0 instead of waiting, because i can always do a "free cancel" closer to game time and bet again.
With K D "upgraded" to questionable, i think the +3 to +3.5, is now a "neutral to good bet" for the Warriors.
Last edited by: ksdjdj on Jun 8, 2019
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June 9th, 2019 at 2:28:09 PM permalink
Update:

K D is still questionable, he has a 50% "official chance" of playing ( it is probably closer to a 55% to 60% "real chance" that he will play).

According to Vegas Insider:
. PEPPERMILL has Warriors +2.5, and
. WESTGATE SUPERBOOK has Raptors -1.5,
. The average line is Raptors @ -2, with the online and Vegas books

Warriors punters should bet +2 / +2.5 now, and Raptors punters should wait, as I think the average line will got to -1.5 .
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June 9th, 2019 at 5:32:48 PM permalink
I think Klay Thompson is more of a factor than Kevin Durant. I would be more concerned if Clay is not 100%.
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June 9th, 2019 at 6:30:44 PM permalink
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I think Klay Thompson is more of a factor than Kevin Durant. I would be more concerned if Clay is not 100%.


Overall, I do as well.

But I think the K D factor will be more important early in the game for the way it may split the defense with more "man coverage" and less "double teaming" on other key players (a possible scenario, if he plays)

I don't know how 4 to 5 weeks of not playing will factor in his game, but health/injury-wise he probably will be less than 90% even if he does play (just a guess, as I don't how long a "strained calf" takes to completely heal).

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Line Update:

Warriors +2*** and Raptors -1.5 are the only lines I can see on Vegas Insider (with the most off-shore books @ 1.5, and about 2/3 of the Vegas books @ +2.0)

***: +2.5 @ PEPPERMILL is no longer available.

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Update (2am Pac time):

I will be asleep 2-3 hours from now, and awake 10 or 11 hours from now, so I won't be able to update my line predictions and/ or estimates between those times.
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June 10th, 2019 at 12:40:13 PM permalink
Line Update:
~11:51 am Kevin Durant - Calf - Active

You can get +1.5 Warriors*** and +1 for the Raptors^^^ (Vegas Insider)

***: Currently available @ TREASURE ISLAND and PEPPERMILL
^^^: Currently available @ WESTGATE SUPERBOOK and CIRCA

if you are a Warriors punter, bet now, and if you are a Raptors punter wait, as i think the average line will go to +1 or more by game time.

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Update (~1258 pm pac time)

Line has moved to +1 or lower for Warriors @ all books except TREASURE ISLAND (which still has +1.5 available , according to Vegas Insider).

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Update (~114 pm pac time)

The best you can get for the Warriors is +1 now, and +1.5 @ CIRCA for Raptors.
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