SOOPOO
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February 8th, 2016 at 11:46:24 AM permalink
Saw story that said Bovada was paying for under 2:20 while BetOnLine was paying over 2:20. Apparently when she finished the National Anthem's last word, "brave", it was at 2:19. After the conclusion of the National Anthem, she sung additional words, "the brave", which took her past 2:19.

A few questions.. How would you rule?
1. The Anthem is over after the singer finishes the last word in it. Anything the singer says, mouths, sings, gyrates, twerks after such is irrelevant. Under
2. The Anthem is not over until the singer is done singing, regardless of if those are the actual lyrics in the Anthem. Over

On a somewhat more serious note, do you think Bovada had more money bet on the Over thus ruled Under, and BetOnLne had more money bet on Under, and thus ruled Over?

I would rule Under if I had to. If asked to explain, I would state that the bet begins at the first word, and ends at the last word, and any words before or after are not germane to the bet.
Romes
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February 8th, 2016 at 11:52:30 AM permalink
I agree with your analysis but that would have to be stipulated in the rules. Personally, if I was going to bet on this bet, I would have to know what constitutes it ending or else, well, this could happen. "The National Anthem" is a set list of words, if the singer adds more, then that's on their own, but she was done singing The National Anthem at 2:19 then it sounds.

It would surprise me if the site that ruled "over" had more money the other way... "Terms and Conditions... We reserve all rights!"
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February 8th, 2016 at 11:56:14 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Saw story that said Bovada was paying for under 2:20 while BetOnLine was paying over 2:20. Apparently when she finished the National Anthem's last word, "brave", it was at 2:19. After the conclusion of the National Anthem, she sung additional words, "the brave", which took her past 2:19.

A few questions.. How would you rule?
1. The Anthem is over after the singer finishes the last word in it. Anything the singer says, mouths, sings, gyrates, twerks after such is irrelevant. Under
2. The Anthem is not over until the singer is done singing, regardless of if those are the actual lyrics in the Anthem. Over

On a somewhat more serious note, do you think Bovada had more money bet on the Over thus ruled Under, and BetOnLne had more money bet on Under, and thus ruled Over?

I would rule Under if I had to. If asked to explain, I would state that the bet begins at the first word, and ends at the last word, and any words before or after are not germane to the bet.



Hmm. I saw a private bet go to the over and I'm inclined to agree. To me, it is the performance of the song and the song isn't over till she stops singing.

There was a similar controversy on Coldplay. I bet that their first song would not be "Yellow." The singer sang the first 2 words of Yellow and then the band launched into some other song. Several books paid both sides. 5dimes graded it a loser. Of course, that's where I bet.
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February 8th, 2016 at 11:58:57 AM permalink
First, my compliments to Lady Gaga who knocked it out of the park.

Here is the video to judge for yourself:



By my count, she started at 0:25 and ended at 2:46, for a total time of 2:21.
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February 8th, 2016 at 12:20:19 PM permalink
Question- did all performers actually sing live? or was there any lip syncing going on?
SOOPOO
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February 8th, 2016 at 12:34:34 PM permalink
Quote: Wizard



By my count, she started at 0:25 and ended at 2:46, for a total time of 2:21.



She finished all the words of the Star Spangled Banner at 2:36. She then repeated some words which took her until 2:46. Your interpretation is the the National Anthem is not over until the singer is done singing, regardless of what she continues to sing, I assume?
Romes
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February 8th, 2016 at 12:43:34 PM permalink
So I just watched the video on YouTube... she started singing (the moment I first heard her voice for the song) at 25 seconds of the video exactly... and stopped with the "literal words" at 2:35, for 2 minutes 10 seconds. If you're counting the "extra" of the brave then she stopped at 2:47, for 2 minutes and 22 seconds.

I'm not sure where the 2:19 ruling came from? It seems like they're taking when the performer stopped, and not the words, which to me is still clearly "over" 2:20.

Video I watched (since Mike's link didn't work for me - You have to watch it on YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso
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SOOPOO
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February 8th, 2016 at 12:50:48 PM permalink
Quote: Romes

So I just watched the video on YouTube... she started singing (the moment I first heard her voice for the song) at 25 seconds of the video exactly... and stopped with the "literal words" at 2:35, for 2 minutes 10 seconds. If you're counting the "extra" of the brave then she stopped at 2:47, for 2 minutes and 22 seconds.

I'm not sure where the 2:19 ruling came from? It seems like they're taking when the performer stopped, and not the words, which to me is still clearly "over" 2:20.

Video I watched (since Mike's link didn't work for me - You have to watch it on YouTube): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyqkN3zezso



The point is it either stopped before 2:20 or after 2:20, depending on whether you count her extra words after she was done with all the generally accepted lyrics.
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February 8th, 2016 at 12:58:04 PM permalink
It ain't over till the fat lady sings.

Or, in this case, till the thin lady stops singing.


I rule over.
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February 8th, 2016 at 1:19:21 PM permalink
Why do singer's have to do their fancy crap when singing? Just sing fast and gtfo

(i lost the under obv)
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