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3 votes (18.75%)
8 votes (50%)
4 votes (25%)
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Wizard
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December 6th, 2015 at 4:15:24 PM permalink
Quote: Rudeboyoi

Anyone get to see this? I was watching the game on gamecast. I had to do a double take. Expected to see the score 14-14. Next thing I knew it was 13-16.

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2596424-saints-block-pat-become-1st-nfl-team-to-score-defensive-2-point-conversion?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-league?is_shared=true#



Wow! What will see next -- a one-point safety? This will totally screw up by coveted NFL database I've been maintaining for 15 years. I don't have any coding for this event, because I never knew such an event was possible. I would have thought what happened resulted in a touchdown.

The question for the poll is what do you think about it?
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December 6th, 2015 at 4:48:06 PM permalink
I see that Yahoo is coding this as a PAT Return.

If this happened in the Super Bowl, I could see a lot of disputes on props it potentially effects.
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December 6th, 2015 at 5:02:20 PM permalink
I think that was a new rule just implemented this season.
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December 6th, 2015 at 5:40:37 PM permalink
The Play was amazing no doubt about it. Was the question at hand whether or not it should be Td or safety?
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December 6th, 2015 at 5:47:16 PM permalink
. . . the game still lands on 3.

Been in college for as long as I can remember, any sportsbook should already have it in their rules on how to grade it for prop bets
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December 6th, 2015 at 9:23:10 PM permalink
Quote: DRich

I think that was a new rule just implemented this season.

Yes. It just started this season.
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December 6th, 2015 at 11:30:59 PM permalink
Quote: Ayecarumba

Yes. It just started this season.



Yep, and took this long to actually matter.

Last football game I went to, Northwestern at Notre Dame (Nov. 2014), NW scored a defensive conversion for 2 pts in the first half and won in OT. Commented that I'm shocked that I saw one live, and we left early...oops!!
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December 7th, 2015 at 4:04:22 AM permalink
No way it can be considered a safety. That it is 2 points is just a coincidence.
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December 7th, 2015 at 6:24:49 AM permalink
Quote: Wizard

Wow! What will see next -- a one-point safety? This will totally screw up by coveted NFL database I've been maintaining for 15 years. I don't have any coding for this event, because I never knew such an event was possible. I would have thought what happened resulted in a touchdown.


The NFL rules, like the NCAA rules that allow the same thing, consider a defensive 2-point return the same as what you would call it had the offense scored 2 points - a touchdown.

Note that an actual safety on an extra point attempt is worth 1 point. 1-point Safeties are more likely now that the defense can return the ball; for example, if a defensive player intercepts a pass on the 1-yard line, then runs into his own end zone and is tackled there.

Quote: NFL Rule 11-1-2


TYPES OF SCORING PLAYS. Points are scored as follows:
(d) Try after touchdown: 1 point (Field Goal or Safety) or 2 points (Touchdown)


Quote: NCAA Football Rule 8-1-1


The point value of scoring plays shall be:
Successful Try:
Touchdown — 2 Points
Field Goal or Safety — 1 Point

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December 7th, 2015 at 6:36:03 AM permalink
Quote: DRich

I think that was a new rule just implemented this season.



If so, would that have been a touchdown last season?
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