terapined
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November 7th, 2014 at 7:42:47 PM permalink
Was cruising TMZ, yea, its kind of trashy but still entertaining.
Came across this point shaving accusation on TMZ.
Googled and found this.

http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/11/jameis-winston-florida-state-qb-accused-of-point-shaving-by-gambling-website

http://ibnsportswrap.com/article.php?articleID=1716

Could he be so dumb as to do this?
He's done some really stupid stuff but this?
Throw away a multi-million dollar career for this?
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Rigondeaux
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November 7th, 2014 at 11:16:10 PM permalink
It seems like a long way to go from, "this guy is friends with Winston," to "Winston was shaving points for this guy."

Maybe Winston merely provided him with some info or an opinion. "These guys are going to play us real tough at first, but we'll wear them down. You'll see." Or maybe nothing at all happened and they are just friends
RonC
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November 8th, 2014 at 6:29:07 AM permalink
Some of these things Winston has been accused of may not have happened...and he is innocent until proven guilty of anything he is accused of...but there is a lot of smoke right now; I just wonder whether they'll find a fire or not????
rdw4potus
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November 8th, 2014 at 6:54:12 AM permalink
It'd take a pretty spectacular amount of skill to sandbag 14 points against a ranked opponent and know you could come back to win. Plus, it'd be risking literally millions of dollars in order to earn a split of $5,000. Winston is neither that skilled nor that stupid...is he?
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AxelWolf
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November 8th, 2014 at 8:27:12 AM permalink
Quote: rdw4potus

It'd take a pretty spectacular amount of skill to sandbag 14 points against a ranked opponent and know you could come back to win. Plus, it'd be risking literally millions of dollars in order to earn a split of $5,000. Winston is neither that skilled nor that stupid...is he?

Makes sense to me. Unfortunately people have done the stupidest things.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
ThatDonGuy
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November 8th, 2014 at 9:13:58 AM permalink
As I said over on complex.com, if you read the story, you'll notice that the link between Rabb and Winston didn't appear to start until somebody else told the bookie (after the FSU-Louisville game) that Rabb and Winston were HS teammates. If the account was in both of their names, wouldn't the bookie have already suspected something?

I also agree that it's a Grand Canyon-size jump from the events listed to "Winston was point shaving".

Here's what the NCAA Bylaws say on this matter:

Quote: NCAA Bylaw 10.3.2

(a) A student-athlete who engages in activities designed to influence the outcome of an intercollegiate contest or in an effort to affect win-loss margins ("point shaving") or who participates in any sports wagering activity involving the student-athleteís institution shall permanently lose all remaining regular-season and postseason eligibility in all sports.

(b) A student-athlete who participates in any sports wagering activity through the Internet, a bookmaker or a parlay card shall be ineligible for all regular-season and postseason competition for a minimum period of one year from the date of the institutionís determination that a violation occurred and shall be charged with the loss of a minimum of one season of eligibility. If the student-athlete is determined to have been involved in a later violation of any portion of Bylaw 10.3, the student-athlete shall permanently lose all remaining regular-season and postseason eligibility in all sports.


Note that the penalty applies to any college athlete that bets on any competition in a sport where there is an NCAA Championship, so any bets on NFL, NBA, MLB, or NHL games, as well as college football and basketball, are subject to the one-year suspension.

If you ask me, the only school that needs to be worried is UAB. Then again, UAB football has enough problems as it is.
Rigondeaux
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November 9th, 2014 at 5:35:54 AM permalink
Quote: RonC

Some of these things Winston has been accused of may not have happened...and he is innocent until proven guilty of anything he is accused of...but there is a lot of smoke right now; I just wonder whether they'll find a fire or not????



The only thing that really seems outrageous to me, should it be true, is the sexual assault allegations. Given that he is an excellent student and considered a good leader by teammates, I think he'll turn out pretty well.

I'm kind of skeptical about this talk of him falling in the draft. It's media acting out a morality play. However, if he does, I think whatever team gets him late will be grateful for years to come.

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