I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
Quote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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If it's your money go get it.
I left money on a slot and they proactively located me to alert me to go back to the machine with the money still in it
At a 2nd place someone grabbed the money before I returned and I filed charges with the police. He turned up a few months later and was given a court summons.
And yes I have to be vigilant when I cash out. I have left money in the machine at least a few times as you can see.
Quote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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The person who hit the button wins the money.
Not always. It depends on the situation. If you are in the seat with your money in the machine but turned around looking back for some reason. Then suddenly some joker comes up and hits your spin button and hits a jackpot, do you think he wins your money? GTFOQuote: billryanQuote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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The person who hit the button wins the money.
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That rule is in place for partners, people, and ploys of people playing together so they can't sit there and choose who gets the W2G after the fact.
Quote: AxelWolfNot always. It depends on the situation. If you are in the seat with your money in the machine but turned around looking back for some reason. Then suddenly some joker comes up and hits your spin button and hits a jackpot, do you think he wins your money? GTFOQuote: billryanQuote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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The person who hit the button wins the money.
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That rule is in place for partners, people, and ploys of people playing together so they can't sit there and choose who gets the W2G after the fact.
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The person who left the money in the machine has no claim on a jackpot hit after he left the machine.
Either does the person who found the money. The money on the machine would belong to the person who left it behind, or the casino/state.Quote: billryanQuote: AxelWolfNot always. It depends on the situation. If you are in the seat with your money in the machine but turned around looking back for some reason. Then suddenly some joker comes up and hits your spin button and hits a jackpot, do you think he wins your money? GTFOQuote: billryanQuote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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The person who hit the button wins the money.
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That rule is in place for partners, people, and ploys of people playing together so they can't sit there and choose who gets the W2G after the fact.
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The person who left the money in the machine has no claim on a jackpot hit after he left the machine.
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Depending on the jurisdiction and circumstances they have committed a crime by playing/using the credits that were not theirs to play the machine.
I assume it would come to intent, and if they knew they were using abandoned credits, or if it was by accident. Regardless, the person playing credits that were not theirs wouldn't be entitled to the jackpot, It would be as if it didn't happen. Again, the money on the machine would belong to the person who left it behind or the casino/state.
That is a different situation and I think it would come down to intent. This is an old-time trick credit hustlers would use when they found credits on a machine in an attempt to circumvent blatant theft and claim ignorance.Quote: billryanIf you leave $42 in a machine and I deposit $100, I'm playing on my money. Until the meter dips below $42, I'm not playing on your money. I never touched your money and it is right where you left it. It should be obvious I intended to play the machine, not abscond with the money you stupidly left behind.
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I still wonder who's credits are being used first in the situation you described? If I were the casino and I thought it was a credit hustler/someone who knew better, I would withhold the jackpot and let gaming decide.
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I still wonder who's credits are being used first in the situation you described? If I were the casino and I thought it was a credit hustler/someone who knew better, I would withhold the jackpot and let gaming decide.
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When I buy food that's "buy one get one free" I always wonder if I should first eat the free one, or the one I paid for.
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I still wonder who's credits are being used first in the situation you described? If I were the casino and I thought it was a credit hustler/someone who knew better, I would withhold the jackpot and let gaming decide.
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Who's credits were being used would have no bearing on the outcome in Nevada. If the casino could show a pattern or intent of the second player I agree they would leave it up to gaming. If it appeared to be an innocent situation where the second player did not know they would be awarded the jackpot but would owe the first player the amount of credits left on the machine. Honestly, the outcome of the spin should have absolutely no bearing on the ruling.
Quote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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Depends on the casino and the security supervisor.
one casino is tough luck.
at another casino, i've left $ twice in a year. 1st time, the security supervisor asked for my phone # and will update me on the status.
They caught the guy at the cage right before cashing out. (no idea why he didnt use the kiosk)
I got my $ back. Forgot what happened to him.
2nd time a year later, security basically said tough luck. maybe policy change?
Quote: 100xOddsQuote: heatmapHas anyone ever experienced this and what happened?
I am specifically interested in the casinos rules after the fact.
And also, say you leave money in a machine, and a person sits down, puts more money in the machine, and then hits a jackpot...?
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Depends on the casino and the security supervisor.
one casino is tough luck.
at another casino, i've left $ twice in a year. 1st time, the security supervisor asked for my phone # and will update me on the status.
They caught the guy at the cage right before cashing out. (no idea why he didnt use the kiosk)
I got my $ back. Forgot what happened to him.
2nd time a year later, security basically said tough luck. maybe policy change?
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Some guy said he lost his money at a Casino and saw a seemingly abandoned $70 in a slot. He thought,"Here's my chance to get back the money I lost!" He pressed cash out and took the TITO and begun running to the cashier cage. A Casino Staff Member stopped him and made him give back the TITO to the Player who had been in the restroom and had asked the Casino Staff Member to watch it for him. The rightful owner of the TITO cussed him out for trying to cash in his money. The guy said he got a temporary trespass for trying to cash in an "abandoned TITO," that wasn't abandoned at all."
A married couple BOTH walked away from their machine that had about $100. About 10 minutes later, the Wife says something like,"Honey, could you please give me the $100? I want to play another slot. The Husband said,"Holy crap, I was JUST about to ask YOU for the $100!" They BOTH realized that NONE of them had the $100. They rushed back to the machine and the $100 was GONE. They reported the missing $100 to a Casino Manager and the Manager checked the camera and responded,"A man cashed out the TITO, went to a TITO Kiosk and cashed it and then ran out the front door with the cash. The Husband and Wife were like,"Since this random guy cashed out OUR TITO and ran with the cash, we get reimbursed by the Casino, right?"
The Manager responded something like,"We don't reimburse abandoned money." The Husband and Wife were like,"So, the guy STOLE our TITO and you're not going to help us out? We're the VICTIMS. "The Manager once again pointed out that abandoned money does not get reimbursed. THe pointed out that the random guy most likely will be trespassed if he comes back again. The Husband and Wife were like,"That's all fine and dandy that he won't be able to steal OTHER TITOs in the FUTURE, but we need our stolen money reimbursed. Manager STILL refused to reimburse them the stolen money. Husband and Wife were VERY upset. ☢️
Most modern wallets have trouble with much more than $6000.
Quote: DieterThat's a really impressive wallet.
Most modern wallets have trouble with much more than $6000.
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I had a ten thousand dollar bill I carried for good luck ever since I got in back in change, and a bunch of $500 bills( for the penny slots)
He could have paid who he still owed, closed up shop and been free and clear. In any case, he would have been no worse off. Unless he never got caught.
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He could have paid who he still owed, closed up shop and been free and clear. In any case, he would have been no worse off. Unless he never got caught.
My assumption would be that after 20 years he assumed he would never get caught.
Quote: billryanQuote: DieterThat's a really impressive wallet.
Most modern wallets have trouble with much more than $6000.
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I had a ten thousand dollar bill I carried for good luck ever since I got in back in change, and a bunch of $500 bills( for the penny slots)
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I do not believe those are useful for slot play.
Most bill acceptors reject $2's and anything over $100.
Quote: rxwineBernie Madoff might have got away with the ponzi scheme if he had made the best bet possible with money he had available and won. You know, like the guys who make one enormous blackjack bet. Win or lose everything.
He could have paid who he still owed, closed up shop and been free and clear. In any case, he would have been no worse off. Unless he never got caught.
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Bernie's problem is that he got greedy. Contrary to what Gordon Gekko from Wal Street said,"Greed is NOT good. " Bernie could have ripped off ONE person and invest that person's money in a lucrative stock gamble that paid off and then pay off the person he ripped off with the profit and STILL have a nice, hefty chunk of change m and Bernie could have permanently stopped them then and there and Person would have had NO idea he was ever ripped off
Quote: DieterQuote: billryanQuote: DieterThat's a really impressive wallet.
Most modern wallets have trouble with much more than $6000.
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I had a ten thousand dollar bill I carried for good luck ever since I got in back in change, and a bunch of $500 bills( for the penny slots)
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I do not believe those are useful for slot play.
Most bill acceptors reject $2's and anything over $100.
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Most casino bill validators will accept $2 bills but the casinos turn that option off.