Casino's known to ban slot APers

Hello everyone I am relatively new to Slot AP/vulturing. I'm starting to get into it pretty heavily and I was wondering which casinos I need to be careful in. I often see mention of casinos banning vultures but I never seem them say which ones are actually doing it.

Also along those lines, is it possibly smarter not to use your players card in these places that you intend to steadily drain money from? I know comps can be nice but it seems foolish to me to leave an easy paper trail for them to see. Wouldn't it take them longer to catch on if you're anonymous? I know nobody is truly anonymous under the eye in the sky but surely it would at least slow down the process if you're not obvious in other ways?

It kind of depends on how much coin in you're going to be doing per day and for how many days and how much in comps you'll be missing. Comps aren't what they used to be but if getting on the board with a few thousand points can get you on the mailing list and get you free parking and maybe even offers of free hotel rooms and a free meal or two, that's a start. It shouldn't take too much effort if you're an avid slot player with a thick wallet. If you want to widen out your winning streak after that you could probably go cardless half the time so the machine doesn't read your card for your Win/Loss record and try to take the money back accordingly. I'm told that's some kind of gambler's fallacy but I've seen enough of my opinion to support it somewhat. If you're going to be winning hand pays every hour, you'll need to keep that card in the machine.
As for what casinos and machines to play at, I don't know. I like the ones with the self-hand pays I see on YouTube where you just put in your PIN number from your Player's Card and you get your hand pay credited to the machine and the tax form stuff is taken care of electronically.
I wouldn't hang around someone else playing a machine for more than 5 minutes, just watching them play a bonus round or something.

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Hello everyone I am relatively new to Slot AP/vulturing. I'm starting to get into it pretty heavily and I was wondering which casinos I need to be careful in. I often see mention of casinos banning vultures but I never seem them say which ones are actually doing it.

Also along those lines, is it possibly smarter not to use your players card in these places that you intend to steadily drain money from? I know comps can be nice but it seems foolish to me to leave an easy paper trail for them to see. Wouldn't it take them longer to catch on if you're anonymous? I know nobody is truly anonymous under the eye in the sky but surely it would at least slow down the process if you're not obvious in other ways?
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Welcome to the forum. It seems like most of the APs use the free play they get (mailers) as an important part of their overall AP strategy. (See DarkOz, Kewlj when he was here, others).
Not using a card, what is your daily estimate you can make in just the pure vulture plays available to you? Using a card and your plays, how much free play would you generate? If you have those two numbers your answer will be likely apparent.

Sometimes all it takes is a pair of floor managers on a bad day catching you button pressing machines (checking) asking you 'whens the last time you were gaming?'... Reason why I'll play anything if it's slow. One place said I wasn't conducting business so I had to leave lol. If I'm being watched or followed around on 'crack-down' days, I just leave for a week. Act like your James bond and the people in suits are the secret service lmao.

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Sometimes all it takes is a pair of floor managers on a bad day catching you button pressing machines (checking) asking you 'whens the last time you were gaming?'... Reason why I'll play anything if it's slow. One place said I wasn't conducting business so I had to leave lol. If I'm being watched or followed around on 'crack-down' days, I just leave for a week. Act like your James bond and the people in suits are the secret service lmao.
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I saw a guy randomly changing denominations on multiple slots and NOT PLAY them..I had no idea why he would want to do that. 😵‍💫🤨🤔💡