DarkOZ's operation close up hidden camera

Haven't seen tokens in 20 years. I don't know what DarkOz does now with TITOs. Just cash out every half hour with a $500 minimum then reload the next machine with a $1,000 minimum? Seems they want points, not buy-ins. The tables want buy-ins, bet sizes, and time spent.

I'd rather believe that D.Oz is a projectionist than that his operation is as low end as what was depicted in that clip.

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The tables want buy-ins, bet sizes, and time spent.
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Average bet x time spent of course; credit line or buy in matters but not if the guy has a large credit line or buy in and never plays to it.

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Haven't seen tokens in 20 years. I don't know what DarkOz does now with TITOs. Just cash out every half hour with a $500 minimum then reload the next machine with a $1,000 minimum? Seems they want points, not buy-ins. The tables want buy-ins, bet sizes, and time spent.
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It's an ancient variation of what I do.

As described in Hard 8 you could not do that these days.

It's more nuanced and complicated and in fact the methods change often as casinos are aware of the AP.

The movie doesn't mention multicarding but makes it seem as if it's not even necessary.

In many ways the clip above is like a scene from "The Man Who Stole The Sun" (great movie). They show step by step a criminal constructing an atom bomb but the filmmakers purposely left out 4 or 5 crucial steps so no one could use the film as an actual guide.

The scene above is basically similar. Shows what I do minus a number of crucial steps

I'm glad that the days of lugging physical coins around is gone and replaced by a tiny paper strip. Eventually all your winnings will be put on just a simple debit card I imagine in the future.

I still have thoughts of bringing two or three 100 chip racks to the tables in case I fill them up. I'm not sure casinos allow them on the tables though.

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I still have thoughts of bringing two or three 100 chip racks to the tables in case I fill them up. I'm not sure casinos allow them on the tables though.
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No need.
Any half decent place will bring over empty racks if they're needed.

I've seen them needed exactly once.

Whenever I win big enough to need a money bag, and decide to cash out in cash instead of a check, I don't have one with me (from a prior big cash out I mean).



But the casinos are willing to please and will supply! (Both the cash...and the means to carry.)



(Not all of them though...after a close to $200K cash out once when I asked, one casino offered me nothing better than a plastic garbage bag.)

If I buy-in for 90 chips and double-up and just want to move to a different table or game without a major color-up, it would help if I had my own chip racks while playing and while moving from table to table. I never see chip racks but in the poker room and that's not where I'm talking about. I've got covers on my racks, so they are less likely to spill with chips in them. The racks would help me keep track of my chip balance while playing, chip stacks keep falling over every time they get bothered.
At a craps table, I don't really have room for more than so many chips, I'd have to put a full rack of chips in the drink tray if it came to that. I guess it's possible to win $50K or $500K at the craps table. But I'd have to be betting on the Don't's on a lot of very cold sessions to get that far.

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I have posted this clip up here before, perhaps more than once. I was doing this when I first started, I wrote about it somewhere on the forum. I probably still have a few old casino logbooks they gave you.

Years later, at some point, I just happened to rent Hard 8 not knowing what it was about, and to my joyful surprise.
At the time, I never thought it was interesting enough for anyone else to think it was interesting. That goes for most Advantage Play stuff.