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August 6th, 2022 at 11:58:55 AM permalink
So I was trying to put a dollar amount for my own book keeping on the food and drink value received from entering in the Diamond and Seven stars lounges.
How Should I go about putting a dollar amount on it $10 per entry? Equivalent cost of food and beverage purchased outside of the club?
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August 6th, 2022 at 12:01:00 PM permalink
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So I was trying to put a dollar amount for my own book keeping on the food and drink value received from entering in the Diamond and Seven stars lounges.
How Should I go about putting a dollar amount on it $10 per entry? Equivalent cost of food and beverage purchased outside of the club?
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Hold it. Do they still offer food?
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August 6th, 2022 at 12:27:45 PM permalink
In Atlantic City, the CZR Diamond Laurel Lounges still have a buffet. The Seven Stars clubs haves table service off a small menu. CZR lounges are way below Borgata's Amphora or Hard Rock's Legends Lounge, but they both charge comps while CZR is free for me.
My beef is that CZR lounges are only open Friday to Sunday in summer. It could be worse. The Laurel Lounges in every other city that I have visited have been closed and probably will never reopen under Reeg.
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August 6th, 2022 at 12:47:36 PM permalink
Yes I was surprised to find that these Laurel Lounges are still open:
https://caesarsrewards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/553/~/caesars-entertainment---laurel-lounge-locations

As a Seven Star, in Vegas I get 4 drink tickets and 1 food ticket for every day that I bother to show up at the Caesars Palace kiosk. Each one is marked to a max of $10., although some of the vendors let it slide for up to $12. per ticket. So anyway, right there you have a perceived value of about $50. per day.

As well, with Seven Stars at some of the vendors I may just flash the player card and go to the head of the line, which is available only for Seven Stars not Diamond, which is of benefit during certain days and hours when there is a long line. There are times when I would just trash the tickets if I had to stand in any line, so that line bypass is a huge benefit for me.
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August 6th, 2022 at 2:21:15 PM permalink
I was told that the players lounges in Ac are closing. The Casinos internally placed a $10-15 value on them. Was just curious for my bookkeeping what I would place as a dollar value on them. IE. $10 -15 dollars per entry, cost of the food and drink if I were to pay for it outside the club on my own?
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August 6th, 2022 at 2:35:06 PM permalink
Caesars AC closed their diamond lounge but 7 star lounge is still open. Harrahs and Trop still have diamond and 7 star lounges open (for now at least)
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August 6th, 2022 at 3:25:33 PM permalink
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I was told that the players lounges in Ac are closing. The Casinos internally placed a $10-15 value on them. Was just curious for my bookkeeping what I would place as a dollar value on them. IE. $10 -15 dollars per entry, cost of the food and drink if I were to pay for it outside the club on my own?
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I would value it at what it would cost you if they were not available. If you would be fine eating bologna sandwiches in your room the cost would probably be $1-$2 a day. If you would require Filet and Lobster you would probably be looking at $200 a day.
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August 6th, 2022 at 6:00:59 PM permalink
Caesars Ac Diamond Lounge Permanently Closed Nero's Permanently closed Tropicana Diamond Lounge closing after Aug. Rumor is they are closing all of the clubs because the Restaurants don't want people eating in the clubs and not their expensive restaurants.
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August 6th, 2022 at 6:02:13 PM permalink
Great Answer as usual Drich!
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August 7th, 2022 at 4:29:29 AM permalink
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As a Seven Star, in Vegas I get 4 drink tickets and 1 food ticket for every day that I bother to show up at the Caesars Palace kiosk. Each one is marked to a max of $10., although some of the vendors let it slide for up to $12. per ticket. So anyway, right there you have a perceived value of about $50 per day.

I thought the CZR kiosk drink tickets in Vegas have fine print that says up to $ 20 ( ? )

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August 7th, 2022 at 7:34:57 AM permalink
You're right the drink coupons are up to $20. and the food up to $10.

I don't use the drink coupons at a bar, I just present them at something like Brioche, Pronto or DiFara Pizza to pick up bottled drinks like Gatorades, which are worth far less than ten dollars each, so I've never run into the ceiling value for beverages. Each coupon is good for one drink only.

The food coupons I've presented them for something that cost more than ten dollars and sometimes the cashier accepts it and says nothing and other times they have asked me for the amount over $10. At Brioche they have a fruit cup that costs about $12. and no one there has ever said anything about that it is over ten dollars. But at DiFara Pizza I used to get two slices of cheese pizza that bring the total about two dollars over the $10., and one time the cashier just accepted the slip and another time I had to give her a little cash. Since that time I just get one slice of cheese pizza which comes in well below $10. so that I don't have to deal with the issue.

Whatever I get with these coupons I get to go.

Over all, that brings up that it's hard to get "exactly" $10. of food (or a $20. drink), so you'll in most cases end up with much less value than the potential maxed out $90.

By the way, in Vegas the drink coupons are only for Diamond Plus or Diamond Elites, not just any Diamonds, and of course Seven Stars.

In Vegas the food coupons are only for Seven Stars.
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August 7th, 2022 at 8:37:54 AM permalink
That's pretty sad about $10 food coupons for 7Stars.
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August 7th, 2022 at 8:49:21 AM permalink
This is what the automated system spits out daily, to make up for the lack of any VIP lounges with food or drink.

If I am not staying on property, I may still walk into any host office and get a comp slip for virtually any amount for a restaurant at any time. At Caesars they still use the old school paper slips, but I assume that the paper slip is tied to something in the computer that the restaurant then accesses. This last trip I did a lot of hit and run winning play at Caesars and barely used any comps at all.
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August 7th, 2022 at 9:08:13 AM permalink
I haven't been 7Stars in more than 5 years... but back then I was never charged at a bar for drinks. And i had all food charges put on my room and my Host would write them off before checkout. And I wasn't playing at Mdawg levels either.
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August 7th, 2022 at 9:11:44 AM permalink
True, you don't need to play too hard to get RFB, but it all depends too on how long you stay and what size the suite is.
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August 7th, 2022 at 9:26:19 AM permalink
In all the years I was 7stars I never asked for a suite at Caesars Palace. I didnt need one.

Before the Augustus tower was built I always got a "petite suite" in the Palace Tower but a petite suite just had separate his/hers bathrooms connected with a large walkin shower.

Later after Augustus was opened I always had a regular Augustus room. It was the most convenient to the valet and the casino.

I was never in a room long enough to need a suite.

I used the room to shower, change, sleep and have room service at 2am.

Using a suite would be a waste of comp value even though as a 7stars I was always entitled to a suite upgrade.

When my kids came to Vegas we'd have adjoining rooms and their nanny would be in their room.
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August 7th, 2022 at 9:49:20 AM permalink
I understand. If we are staying on property, my wife will stay in the room a lot so we need a large suite. We haven't had a chance to try it yet but plan to try the spa suite in the Augustus Tower next time, because it has a sauna in it (similar to the suite we get at Venetian that has both a sauna and an exercise room). The suite we stay in at Caesars so far has been the Palace Premium Suite, 1400 S/F.

When I played years ago, pre decade or so hiatus, I used to spend almost all my time in the casino. These days, for the trips over the past four years, I spend much less time in the casino, generally just one winning session a day, and then that's it until the next day. And if I lose one day, I might take a few days off. So I actually spend a lot of time in the suite if we are staying on property, not as much as my wife, but still a lot.
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August 12th, 2022 at 2:10:01 PM permalink
I'm kind of making this debate internally given the upcoming tier bonus week. I am Diamond already with about 7,500 points to go to get to Diamond Plus so a couple of 1,000 point days would do it. You get four $20 drink coupons in Vegas per day and they can be good drinks not the low quality stuff served to you while playing. On the other hand, after the first couple of drinks, a drink mixed with free New Amsterdam vs. the paid Grey Goose is not that detectable. And I don't go to Vegas that much, preferring the ease of access of the local California casinos, which don't comp alcoholic drinks; but you probably shouldn't be drinking while gambling anyway, especially on games like blackjack or video poker which require use of strategy.

Therefore, I'm thinking on saving on the drive to Rincon and just hitting the casinos on the I-10 corridor (including Yaamava) if I need my fix.
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August 12th, 2022 at 3:35:18 PM permalink
Yaamava is huge and has 121,300 square feet with 6,500 slot machines, 135 table games, 38 poker tables and five high-limit rooms.

They allow betting to 25K max at Baccarat, while their sister property the Palms in Vegas allows only to 10K max.

It is the only casino in California, I have ever played at. Just one short trip because they made me an offer I could not refuse promo wise. We collected on the promo and I hit them hard for a pretty major win at the tables, playing to a special limit at a private table.

I don't drink so I have no idea if Yaamava even serves alcoholic drinks at the tables - if they do, as you mention, I don't think they may be comp'ed.
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August 12th, 2022 at 4:09:14 PM permalink
Yaamava’ is my closest casino. The video poker was marginal (9/5 jacks at most denominations, 9/6 DDB at the $1 level) but was recently downgraded a notch at all levels. There is one un-downgraded machine in a sea of downgraded machines which is usually occupied by a ploppy playing keno on it. Soboba has 9/6 double double bonus with a progressive. Pechanga and Pala traditionally have been the best for video poker in the SoCal market.

Out of the compacts I have read, none allow Indian casinos to comp drinks. Even points cannot be used to comp drinks at Harrah’s SoCal. I do take advantage of the drinks liberally in Vegas, but if I have to pay more than a couple of bucks for a tip, I don’t partake in California.
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August 12th, 2022 at 4:48:41 PM permalink
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August 12th, 2022 at 4:48:43 PM permalink
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Caesars AC closed their diamond lounge but 7 star lounge is still open. Harrahs and Trop still have diamond and 7 star lounges open (for now at least)
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As of 8/12/22:
https://caesarsrewards.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/411/~/atlantic-city-region---laurel-lounge-%26-seven-star-lounge

Caesars diamond lounge closed.
Trop Diamond lounge is now drinks only and will move to the 20th floor.
Harrahs Diamond lounge is the last one standing.

No reason to play at Caesars anymore unless you want a hotel without resort fees.
ie: Just earn 15k tier points for base Diamond

Heck, might be cheaper to buy the Founder's card for base Diamond
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