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January 15th, 2020 at 4:56:06 PM permalink
In another thread a while ago Wizard said:

Wizard of Vegas:

"Par sheets these days are not very useful. I don't want to say too much, buy they withhold some details that are essential to quantifying the return. Often some feature will happen "randomly," but they don't say the probability. I suspect that the slot makers must have real par sheets they keep internally and tease casinos with the incomplete ones.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet."

I know what Wizard means by "I don't want to say too much". But I don't think it can hurt and it might be interesting to talk about this new wrinkle. I think the new par sheet techniques on more recent games, while almost useless if you obtain them, is also a bit unfair to players because most still believe that simple virtual reels are being used and THEY ARE NOT.

Well, how is that for a first post?
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January 15th, 2020 at 8:02:14 PM permalink
Not bad for a first post. However, video slots still do use virtual reels unless it's a class II or pull-tab game. Why I meant about not being able to quantify the odds usually has to do with bonus rules. For example, it might have a prize wheel, but won't say how each slice on the reel is weighted.
It's not whether you win or lose; it's whether or not you had a good bet.
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January 16th, 2020 at 7:51:58 AM permalink
I guess it depends how you define virtual reels. In mechanical slots we do it by the use of weighting the stops on the reels. I have never worked on a video slot that weights the reels. That is what I think of as virtual reels. Some may argue that all reels on video are virtual.
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January 24th, 2020 at 11:40:11 AM permalink
Not to piggyback, but this article is close enough to the subject of this thread to pin it here:


I usually don't like creating new threads for articles unless something really doesn't fit.

Actually, DRich, I'd also appreciate if you could have a look at one part of this one if you have time.
Vultures can't be choosers.

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