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TomG
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Romes
September 7th, 2019 at 8:00:30 AM permalink
Sounds like you've come up with a plan.

I've had success using a line to the effect, "You had no problem taking my money, but when it comes time to pay out you won't do so, is that correct?" It cuts right to the integrity of their entire operation. Every time I've used that line, the low-level employee stops giving me their BS and starts trying to find the person who can address the problem.

I would be too paranoid to send someone up their on my behalf. A few times where I went to cash in a ticket I found ($1 - $2) and was told it was already cashed out (no idea why it wasn't forfeited). Could be trouble if they tried that with someone who couldn't provide much details about the ticket's history. Maybe go to the cashier together and have him show his ID, while you just watch.
darkoz
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September 7th, 2019 at 8:14:04 AM permalink
Quote: Mission146

I suppose at this casino in the future it might be a good idea to cash the ticket out, put it in a different machine without using a playerís card, take one spin and cash it out again.

Maybe even do that a few times. Hell, they might even have locked the ticket BECAUSE they saw you leave without cashing it. Did you try to put the ticket in a different machine after the kiosk refused it? I donít know if that would work or not, can it be communicated to all the individual machines that a ticket is locked?



I dont know what casino Romes was at but it is definitely possible to lock the voucher against all use. It wont even be accepted by a slot machine

It has happened to me.
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AxelWolf
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September 7th, 2019 at 8:34:25 AM permalink
You got out with out getting 86ed. Toss the ticket in the trash and move on.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
darkoz
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September 7th, 2019 at 8:40:17 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You got out with out getting 86ed. Toss the ticket in the trash and move on.



Put it to some good use.

Hand it to someone you dont like as a make-up gift and let them deal with casino management
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Romes
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September 7th, 2019 at 9:18:35 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf

You got out with out getting 86ed. Toss the ticket in the trash and move on.

Meh, we did nothing wrong and I think I can get paid without EVER having them know I exist or get my information, and it's for a decent little chunk of change... I'll free roll my options.
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AxelWolf
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September 7th, 2019 at 10:14:59 AM permalink
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Meh, we did nothing wrong .



100% of those guys said the same thing.
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
SOOPOO
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September 7th, 2019 at 10:29:48 AM permalink
Maybe I missed something. I thought you do not need to show ID to cash out a ticket? Why did you not just go to the cashier and cash out the ticket? And if they asked for ID, just giggle, and say, "silly you, you know you can't ask for ID!" All the while conspicuously filming this event? The suit already has your picture if he wanted it, and they know what you did, or they wouldn't have locked the ticket, right?
AxelWolf
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September 7th, 2019 at 10:41:17 AM permalink
Quote: SOOPOO

Maybe I missed something.

YES
♪♪Now you swear and kick and beg us That you're not a gamblin' man Then you find you're back in Vegas With a handle in your hand♪♪ Your black cards can make you money So you hide them when you're able In the land of casinos and money You must put them on the table♪♪ You go back Jack do it again roulette wheels turinin' 'round and 'round♪♪ You go back Jack do it again♪♪
MDawg
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September 7th, 2019 at 10:51:02 AM permalink
Lot of silly suggestions above such as "buy a fake ID" - merely possessing such a thing let alone presenting it for any purpose is illegal.

Also Romes keeps saying "we did nothing wrong" - the moment he claimed to be someone else, he took a step in the wrong direction. Understood, he panicked, but most anything he said at that point "I was playing for someone else who had just stepped away briefly" might have been disputed IF they had the cameras turned on that particular area for long enough.

In any case, here he violated some casino rules against playing with someone else's player card, and essentially "transferring / using someone else's comps" - all the casinos have rules against that. It wasn't just a flat win against cash he won playing against some kind of promotion / comps and therein would be the argument the casinos would use to not pay him - that to even begin to play or win he had to have essentially transferred someone else's free play to himself. Darkov also doesn't put a nickel into any machine he just plays with free play which results in cashouts, and if the casinos used their heads they would block his collecting along these same lines. If I were the casino general counsel this is how I'd put a stop to all this.

Now Darkov comes in and says "I am using someone else's card with his permission" - I'd say fine, but any comps or free play that were on that card are voided the moment anyone else tries to use it, for any purposes, included for winning.
Last edited by: MDawg on Sep 7, 2019
darkoz
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September 7th, 2019 at 10:51:03 AM permalink
Quote: AxelWolf



100% of those guys said the same thing.



And many of them were not lying.

But pretty certain 100% of them are not in jail for using another person casino card with their permission
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